Monday, January 18, 2010

Unfooled Foolster41

Author Profile Page srizals | December 26, 2009 8:09 PM | Reply

One more if I may,do you know about the cease fire arrangement between Israel and Hamas prior to the rocket firings?
Author Profile Page Foolster41 | January 13, 2010 10:37 PM | Reply

Sorry it took so long to reply.

It takes me usually a few minutes, I don't think any more than 5 or so minutes at worst. for a post to go through usually.

"Ok, first of all, what made you think that Gaza is not a concentration camp?"

YOU are the one making the positive claim, it makes no sense to turn it around to ask ME for proof that it ISN'T happening.

"Set aside the concentrated Palestinians there, with their homes and lands being taken by the Zionists at Deir Yassin and etc."

"One more if I may,do you know about the cease fire arrangement between Israel and Hamas prior to the rocket firings?"
I know of it, yes. I'm not sure where you're going with this.
"What's your logic of believing otherwise?"

This is a leading question, it is phrased with the assumption that you are right and I'm ignoring the bleeding obvious without actually stating it that way without actually presenting facts to show you are right.

Facts, not rhetoric please.
Author Profile Page Foolster41 | January 14, 2010 3:49 PM | Reply

Rats my note didn't post. It usualy takes a few minutes.

"Ok, first of all, what made you think that Gaza is not a concentration camp? Set aside the concentrated Palestinians there, with their homes and lands being taken by the Zionists at Deir Yassin and etc. You like to ask for logical explanation against your common belief. What's your logic of believing otherwise? "

Firstly, this makes no sense. YOU are making the positive claims, not I and so to try to turn it around to "prove that my claim is false" is silly and illogical.

Secondly, your question? statement? is leading and dishonest. All you are saying it "you're wrong, and idiot who is defying logic (by, might I add, only asking for PROOF)." without actually saying it.

Now that is out of the way, perhaps we should attack the individual issues. What do you think of the wall? HAMAS cries about it being a "war crime", but perhaps that's because HAMAS is angry they can't get their suicide bombers through to kill more Israli citizens (It is after all, them who has called for Israel's destruction in statements and in their charter and has spread VILE DISGUSTING BLOOD LIBEL AND HATE, to CHILDREN nonetheless through the TV station Al-Jazereea(sp?).

If you need examples of such blood libel that can be called nothing less than aspirations for GENOCIDE check out here:

And there are many more!
Author Profile Page Foolster41 | January 15, 2010 7:31 PM | Reply

Sorry for the double post, my first was delayed, and I thought it wasn't going through.

You never did answer some of my questions.
1.)What do you think of HAMAS? Do you see it as:
a.)very bad
b.)somewhat bad
c.)neither good nor bad
e.)very good
2.)Same question as 1 but about the government of Iran.
3.)You keep dancing around this, I want a straight answer on this. If someone is firing from behind a civilian, and people are being harmed as a result, do you think it is morally wrong for a person to strike back in order to stop him, knowing the civilian MAY be killed (who happens to share the gunman's hatred for the people being shot, though he may disagree with his particular role as shield), and knowing that if he doesn't take action more of his own people will be killed?
Some new questions:
4.)Are you a Muslim? If so, what sect? (I apologize if you already said this, this has been a long conversation, and I can't find it from a search.)
5.)Do you beleive Mohammad was a good example as a man?
6.)Do you beleive there is in the core teachings of Islam things that need to be changed?
(These are for if you answered YES to #5)
7.)Do you beleive non-Muslims should be punished for criticizing or mocking Mohammad and Islam? If so, what should the punishment be?
8.)What do you think about amputations and floggings as punishments?
9.)Do you beleive that ultimately Islam should rule the world, not by merely preaching it, but by force of the sword and trying to change laws to conform to sharia?

I may think of more questions. Thank you.
Author Profile Page srizals | January 16, 2010 7:01 AM | Reply

Hi Foolster41, yes it's been a long talk n frankly speaking I'm quite lost, but I'll try to focus on your recent questions with the time I have at hand. If I forgot to address any important issues, please remind me later.

1. Hamas is very good. But like any other human organisation, unlike the angels, flaws are inevitable. With so many brains and desires, just like the US army and CIA. Remember private Green that gang raped and killed the entire family of the victim, chopped her to pieces and burnt her meat while framing the jihadist of doing it? Does it represent the US army in general? Excuse us for not being perfect like you guys.

2. Iran is very good too. But not perfect just like anyone of us. The US nuked, poisoned and firebombed almost the entire race of the human kind, indiscriminately, in almost all four corners of the world, but that still doesn't make it a 100% evil terminator.

3. He should use his wits rather than his balls to lure, wait and just kill the killer without hurting the killer's relatives, babies and et cetera. What's the rush? Don't you know about SWAT rules of engagement? Like the Palestinians. You got them cornered with gigantic walls, mini guns and inhumane blockade. What's your Christian view on this one?

4. I am a Muslim. We are one, so any Muslims that follow the ways of Muhammad, as in the Sunnah, Al Quran and Al Hadith shown and continued by his trustworthy companions and Muslim scholars and adhere to the 5 principles of Islam and 6 pillars of faith are my brothers n sisters.

5. Yes, compared to Napoleon, Hitler, Stalin, Radovan Karadzic, Mao, Roman emperors that built coliseum to witness people killed each other for their amusement, watching gladiators died and cheered in a drunken manner, most US president, Western leaders that toasted babies, lied repeatedly, broke treaties and said it had to be done and et cetera and et cetera.

6. Which one? On abortion? On sex without marriage? On killing Japanese civilians to avenge Pearl Harbour? On taking creatures as gods besides the One True God? On confirming the ten commandments?

7. Yes, in court of his choice, according to his term and conditions and the right to speak his mind why he thinks Islam is bad and Muhammad is a liar compared to what went down in history and current slayers of Palestinian civilians. He must present his case so that everyone would bear witness to the lies of the century, Islam, abortion, sex slaves, sex magazines, porn industries and killers of humanity. Syariah is just for Muslims. Non Muslims are not entitled to it.

8. Good. Spare the rod; spoil the brat kind of thing. With so much killing, raping and Madoff wannabe happening around us. What's your solution in dealing with the ever increasing crime rate? Make abortion, killing the helpless and sex trade unlawful? Preaching pornography like in the US? You guys tortured suspected terrorists for fun and have the guts to question how Islam deals with criminals? Christians gutted alive those who committed crimes against the church, burnt them alive in inquisitions just for the suspicion of heresy. What do you have to say about them? Besides, according to Syariah, four trustworthy witnesses known for their piousness must be present at the scene of the sex crime, which made it almost impossible for the judge to execute the maximum penalty. Even the slightest doubt would annul the charge. And most of the conviction requires the offender to confess without being slowly torn to pieces on the rack, a special device of medieval torture machine invented by Christian church. One more, all the doors to the evil must be closed by the Muslim community to make the Syariah worked. So any tempting conditions or situations must be addressed first through education and implementing laws and regulations to promote and make it easy for anyone wished to get married and get a life.

9. Peacefully and intellectually, yes. So that none would complain in the hereafter that the message of the truth didn't reach him and not forgetting free will. Also to stop another crazy human being, especially non Muslims from being another ungodly humangod like Genghis Khan, Napoleon, Hitler, Stalin, Karadzic, Mao, Pol Pot, Sharon, leaders of Irgun and Lehmann and et cetera and et cetera. Not by force. Not like the Romans that brought Roman Catholic all over Europe and destroyed the British resistance led by Boudica. By the way, did you know the early history of Christianity? I mean the crucification of the Christians by the Romans before miraculously embraced the same faith of their gladiators? The same gladiators that killed and died in front of a cheering crowd like in a football stadium nowadays. Muslims must convey the word of God to all mankind. Jesus Christ was only sent to the Israelite. Not to the rest of the human race. Just like Prophet Musa to the Israelite and not to the Egyptians. And even then, he was rejected by his people and the Romans tried to kill him, remember? Only a handful accepted him and became Christians without trinity.
Author Profile Page srizals | January 17, 2010 3:39 AM | Reply

By the way, have you watched Keanu Reeves in The Day The Earth Stood Still? Awesome aint it? I mean the human questions brought up in the movie.
Author Profile Page Foolster41 | January 17, 2010 10:56 PM | Reply

1.)You support a TERRORIST RACIST ORGINIZATION. They constantly call for the elimination of Isreal/Jews and act towards that means (as I have earlier shown). It is ILLEGAL to donate money to them, and to do so is to fund terrorism, a federal crime.

2.)You support a SUPPRESIVE RACIST REGIME who called for wiping out Isreal, and opresses non-muslims and funds TERRORISM.

3.)"What's the rush?" What's the rush?!! Read closely what I wrote. JEWS (PEOPLE!) ARE BEING KILLED. Aparently it's not that big a deal to you when jews die, and they can just take their time. Their just Jews, right? Angyway, who is the swat? The UN who contenues to throw out meaningless declerations and seems intent on treated Isreal as just as guilty (or even worse)? You're anti-semetism is showing.

4.)Not really surprised from what you've posted so far that you're a muslim.

5.)From your own lips! Only comparedto MONSTERS is Mohammad a good example! Thank you for your honesy.

6.)Double speak and typical Muslim distraction. I ask about Islam's call to dominate the world through the sword and impose sharia, and a muslim goes into "blame mode"

7.)"Non Muslims are not entitled to it". A lie. If this is true, why is sharia imposed on non-muslims in muslim majority nations?

8.)You praise HARSH BARBARIAC practices. I am not against capital punishment for severe crimes, but there is a line between keeping the law and being a barbarian.

9.) "Jesus Christ was only sent to the Israelite. Not to the rest of the human race. " I recommend you read your bible more. Try John 4, Acts 10, Galations 3:6-9 and Romans 4:1-12.

Never seen earth stood still. Frankly, I don't really like Keanu Reaves. That someone who supports the things you do above thinks it's awesome is even more reason to stay away from it.

To summarize, you unaquvilicly praise terrorist organizations, goverments that support terrorism and oppressive sharia law on non-beleivers, you show little concern for the death of Jews, you praise and you say Mohammad is a good example, only compared to mass murders (Mo was after all, a mass murderer himself!).

Thanks for showing what peace loving "moderate" Muslims look like! I'm going to fight politcaly all the more to make sure people who think like you do not get power in the west! Who needs "Islamaphobes" to discredit Islam when Muslims do such a good job themselves?

I think I'm done here, I don't think I have any more to say to you, so Good bye. Please get out of the west and go to somewhere where Sharia law is appreciated. May I recommend Iran?

If you do choose to follow the path of Jihad (You certaintly don't sound you have any moral problems with it!) then may your bombs all prematurely detonate.
Author Profile Page srizals | January 18, 2010 5:07 AM | Reply

7.)"Non Muslims are not entitled to it". A lie. If this is true, why is sharia imposed on non-muslims in muslim majority nations?

You forgot to back it up with proof, unbias of course. Are you eating your own words again?
Author Profile Page srizals | January 18, 2010 5:13 AM | Reply

7.)"Non Muslims are not entitled to it". A lie. If this is true, why is sharia imposed on non-muslims in muslim majority nations?

You forgot to back it up with proof, unbias of course. Are you eating your own words now foolster41?
Author Profile Page srizals | January 18, 2010 5:18 AM | Reply

Don't ridicule my prophet without unbias accepted universal truth proof, foolster41, don't make me angry, you won't like it if I'm angry. I might end up being an incredible hulk or something. Did you watch it foolster41? What kind of movies that interest you anyway?
Author Profile Page srizals | January 18, 2010 5:26 AM | Reply

Err, you need a tutor too to help you out, in spelling I mean. Catch you later foolster41, stay cool n unfool if possible. Cheerio.

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