Thursday, January 28, 2010

Knowledge Seeker

srizals
A tired week for me indeed. Try to go bankai and increase my reitsu and break my limit but using so much energy within a short period of time sure is taxing afterwards. But before I retreat, got to post this one. Very interesting.

Taken from http://archbishop-cranmer.blogspot.com/Will Islam save the United Kingdom by her example?


Blogger bluedog said...
Your Grace

An alliance with Islam would be a fatal error for the Christian churches. Pope Benedict possesses a first-class mind and is a theologian with few, if any rivals. His Regensburg Address was a modern attempt to draw a distinction between Islam and Christianity and predictably aroused the fury of the Islamists. Benedict quoted the Byzantine emperor Manuel II Paleologos who famously said "Show me just what Mahommed brought that was new and there you will find things only evil and inhuman". This was in 1392 and nothing has changed.

John Quincy Adams, diplomat and sixth president of the United States had an equally profound understanding of Islam. He wrote, "In the seventh century of the Christian era, a wandering Arab of the lineage of Hagar (mohammed), the Egyptian, combining the powers of transcendent genius, with the preternatural energy of a fanatic, and the fraudulent spirit of an impostor, proclaimed himself as a messenger from Heaven, and spread desolation and delusion over an extensive portion of the earth. Adopting from the sublime conception of the Mosaic law, the doctrine of one omnipotent god; he connected indissolubly with it, the audacious falsehood, that he was himself his prophet and apostle. Adopting from the new Revelation of Jesus, the faith and hope of immortal life, and of future retribution, he humbled it to the dust by adapting all the rewards and sanctions of his religion to the gratification of the sexual passion. He poisoned the sources of human felicity at the fountain, by degrading the condition of the female sex, and the allowance of polygamy; and he declared undistinguishing and exterminating war, as a part of his religion, against all the rest of mankind. THE ESSENCE OF HIS DOCTRINE WAS VIOLENCE AND LUST: TO EXALT THE BRUTAL OVER THE SPIRITUAL PART OF HUMAN NATURE...Between these two religions, thus contrasted in their characters, a war of twelve hundred years has already raged. The war is yet flagrant...While the merciless and dissolute dogmas of the false prophet shall furnish motives to human action, there can never be peace upon the earth, and good will towards men".

Would that the current president of the United States could bring himself to repeat those words.

Anyway, once again, nothing has changed other than that this wisdom is ignored by western secularists and socialists. These fools do not understand that if Islam triumphs in the West their freedom even to talk about their sterile beliefs will be denied.

They will live in Dhimmitude, like the remaining Christians.

Sadly their conceit is such that this is beyond their imagining and their understanding.

Your Grace, I am surprised that you even entertain the thought of bringing Islam into the British power structure. See the uncomfortable words of Abdullah @ 10.17 if you doubt me.

28 January 2010 11:23
Anonymous TheGlovner said...
"One of the most outstanding characteristics of our age is that ideas, even false and unworkable ideas, even ideas which are no longer believed in by their official guardians, rule the affairs of men and ride roughshod over stubborn facts. Ideas of enormous destructiveness, cruelty, and impracticality retain the allegiance of elites that benefit from them. The empirical record seems not to jut through into consciousness to break their spell. The class of persons who earn their livelihood from the making of ideas and symbols seems both unusually bewitched by falsehoods and absurdities and uniquely empowered to impose them on hapless individuals."

Funnily enough taking that quote out of context it could quite easily apply to religion, oh the irony.

28 January 2010 13:42
Blogger Knowledge Seeker said...

Dear not a machine

Regarding your comment on the 28 January 2010 01:51

I will try as briefly as I can.

Muslims believe in Jesus (peace be upon him):

“ Say: "We believe in Allah, and in what has been revealed to us and what was revealed to Abraham, Isma'il, Isaac, Jacob, and the Tribes, and in (the Books) given to Moses, Jesus, and the prophets, from their Lord: We make no distinction between one and another among them, and to Allah do we bow our will (in Islam)." (The Holy Quran, 3: 84)

In his miraculous birth:

God created Jesus (peace be upon him) as a sign for mankind.

“And We made the son of mary and his mother as a Sign: We gave them both shelter on high ground, affording rest and security and furnished with springs.” (The Holy Quran, 23: 50)

“Behold! the angels said: "O Mary! Allah giveth thee glad tidings of a Word from Him: his name will be Christ Jesus, the son of Mary, held in honour in this world and the Hereafter and of (the company of) those nearest to Allah.” (The Holy Quran , 3:45)

Muslims believe in the miracles which he performed with God’s permission. And Among his miracles in the Quran that he was given by God, was to be able to talk already as a baby in the cradle, and speaking in defence of his mother Mary, when she was faced with false accusations. God taught him the torah and the Gospel. Jesus (peace be upon him) displayed knowledge and wisdom, and was sent for the children of Israel.

“Then will Allah say: "O jesus the son of Mary! Recount My favour to thee and to thy mother. Behold! I strengthened thee with the holy spirit, so that thou didst speak to the people in childhood and in maturity. Behold! I taught thee the Book and Wisdom, the the Taurat and the Gospel and behold! thou makest out of clay, as it were, the figure of a bird, by My leave, and thou breathest into it and it becometh a bird by My leave, and thou healest those born blind, and the lepers, by My leave. And behold! thou bringest forth the dead by My leave. And behold! I did restrain the Children of Israel from (violence to) thee when thou didst show them the clear Signs, and the unbelievers among them said: 'This is nothing but evident magic.'” (The Holy Quran, 5: 110)

However, Muslims believe that Jesus (peace be upon him) was not crucified but rather, God raised him up to heaven to himself, saving him from the intended crucifixion. Jesus (peace be upon him) characteristics were put over another man, and that man was crucified instead.

“That they said (in boast), "We killed Christ Jesus the son of Mary, the Messenger of Allah.;- but they killed him not, nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them, and those who differ therein are full of doubts, with no (certain) knowledge, but only conjecture to follow, for of a surety they killed him not”( The Holy Quran, 4:157)

“Nay, Allah raised him up unto Himself; and Allah is Exalted in Power, Wise” (The Holy Quran, 4:158)

Jesus (peace be upon him) the messiah, will return before the end of times.

“And (Jesus) shall be a sign (for the coming of) the Hour (of Judgment): therefore have no doubt about the (Hour), but follow ye Me: this is a Straight Way.”
(The Holy Quran , 43:61)

His return will be one of the major signs which will occur, other signs will include the emergence of the anti-christ or “dajjal” whom Jesus will confront and defeat, and after he will rule for a period of peace and prosperity.

28 January 2010 13:59
Blogger Knowledge Seeker said...

Muslims also believe that God has no sons, daughters or associates.

“Say: He is Allah, the One and Only; Allah, the Eternal, Absolute; He begetteth not, nor is He begotten; And there is none like unto Him.” (The Holy Quran , 112: 1-4)

Jesus (peace be upon him) called for the worship of the one and only God of the Ten Commandments: “I am the Lord, your God.... you shall have no other gods before me, or in Hosea 13:4: “I am the Lord your God from the land of Egypt: you know no god but Me, and besides Me there is no saviour”. In addition, in Matthew 5:17-19 “Think not that I have come to abolish the law and the prophets; I have come not to abolish them but to fulfil them”.

“And remember, Jesus, the son of Mary, said: "O Children of Israel! I am the apostle of Allah (sent) to you, confirming the Law (which came) before me, and giving Glad Tidings of an Messenger to come after me, whose name shall be Ahmad (the praised one)." But when he came to them with Clear Signs, they said, "this is evident sorcery!" (The Holy Quran, 61:6)

references:

Answers to common questions
http://www.ipci.co.za/Books/commonquestions_3rded02.pdf

http://teachislam.com/dmdocuments/Muhammad_Aman_Hobohm_Islams_Answer_to_Racial_Problem.pdf

www.theradiantlight.blogspot.com/

28 January 2010 14:01

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