Jewish DNA, Circumcision, Gaenology In The Bible and Etc.

KINGOFHIGHCS said...
Srizals said:

'The killing between moslems is political not religious' Part 1

During the Iraq Iran war alone, estimates of the number of dead range up to 1.5 million. Sunni vs Shia!

Iraq War:http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shi%27a%E2%80%93Sunni_relations ( A RARE BLOG REF)

Some of the worst Shia-Sunni sectarian strife ever has occurred after the start of the Iraq War, steadily building up to present.[12] Deaths from American and allied military collateral damage[62] have become overshadowed by the cycle of Sunni-Shia revenge killing—Sunni often using car bombs,with Shia favoring death squads.[63]

According to one estimate, as of early 2008, 1,121 Muslim suicide bombers have blown themselves up in Iraq.[64] Sunni suicide bombers have targeted not only thousands of civilians,[65] but mosques, shrines,[66] wedding and funeral processions,[67] markets, hospitals, offices, and streets.[68] Sunni insurgent organizations include Ansar al-Islam.[69] Radical groups include Al-Tawhid Wal-Jihad, Jeish al-Taiifa al-Mansoura, Jeish Muhammad, and Black Banner Organization.[70]

Takfir motivation for many of these killings may come from Sunni insurgent leader Abu Musab al-Zarqawi. Before his death Zarqawi was one to quote Muhammad ibn Abd al-Wahhab, especially his infamous statement urging followers to kill the Shia of Iraq,[71] and calling the Shias "snakes".[72] An al-Qaeda-affiliated website posted a call for "a full-scale war on Shiites all over Iraq, whenever and wherever they are found."[73] Wahhabi suicide bombers continue to attack Iraqi Shia civilians,[74] and the Shia ulama have in response declared suicide bombing as haraam:

12 December 2010 03:13

KINGOFHIGHCS said...
Srizals said:

'The killing between moslems is political not religious' Part 2

حتي كساني كه با انتحار مي‌‏آيند و مي‌‏زنند عده‌‏اي را مي‌‏كشند، آن هم به عنوان عمليات انتحاري، اينها در قعر جهنم هستند
Even those who kill people with suicide bombing, these shall meet the flames of hell.
—Ayatollah Yousef Saanei[75]

Some believe the war has strengthened the takfir thinking and may spread Sunni-Shia strife elsewhere.[76]

On the Shia side, in early February 2006 militia-dominated government death squads were reportedly "tortur[ing] to death or summarily" executing "hundreds" of Sunnis "every month in Baghdad alone," many arrested at random.[77][78][79] According to the British television Channel 4, from 2005 through early 2006, commandos of the Ministry of the Interior which is controlled by the Badr Organization, and

...who are almost exclusively Shia Muslims — have been implicated in rounding up and killing thousands of ordinary Sunni civilians.[80]

The violence shows little sign of getting opposite sides to back down. Iran's Shia leaders, some of whom have strong ties with Iraqi Shia, are said to become "more determined" the more violent the anti-Shia attacks in Iraq become.[81] One Shia Grand Ayatollah, Yousef Saanei, who has been described as a moderate, reacted to the 2005 suicide bombings of Shia targets in Iraq by saying the bombers were "wolves without pity" and that "sooner rather than later, Iran will have to put them down".

12 December 2010 03:14

KINGOFHIGHCS said...
Srizals said:
Your Question; Can I have the descriptions of Ishmael in the bible from you that have made his progeny so despised by his own cousins to this very day?
Answer; There is no such description of Ishmael being despised, However, he is not a legitimate heir to GODS COVENANT but even so, again I say, YOU (Moslems) are not racially descendent from Abraham, anymore than I am! Sorry but this is the TRUTH!!
Your Question; I also know about the prophecy you’re waiting for when Jesus was said to have a sword in his mouth and the Jews have either to accept him or be slaughtered. You wanted to fulfil this prophecy so that Jesus would walk back on earth.
You are wrong on Christian interpretation of OUR PROPHECY!!!
JESUS RETURNS TO SAVE THE JEWS FROM ANTICHRIST AND ALL OTHERS LIKE YOURSELF. HE SLAUGHTERS NO JEWS, ONLY UNBELIEVERS BY 'A WORD' FROM HIS MOUTH.!! JEWS BELIEVE AND MOURN WHEN THEY SEE HIM AS THEIR MESSIAH, WHO THEY REJECTED.
'We Muslims knew and know until now who Muhammad is and was. Thanks.'
WE ALSO KNOW WHAT MUSLIMS BELIEVE ABOUT JEWS AND CHRISTIANS FROM BLOGS LIKE YOURS AND THE QU'RAN, THANKS.

I only look at BLOGS for knowledge about the BLOG' I never recommend, as you do, to prove points out of context. I READ BOOKS BY ESTABLISHED HISTORIANS AND ONLY QUOTE THEM!

TOO FOOLISH TO RESPOND TO FULLY..'And I quote, Luke 24:25-27 (New International Version, ©2010)
25 He said to them, “How foolish you are, and how slow to believe all that the prophets have spoken! 26 Did not the Messiah have to suffer these things and then enter his glory?” 27 And beginning with Moses and all the Prophets, he explained to them what was said in all the Scriptures concerning himself.
Only Muhammad fits this description. From suffering besiegement and alienation, oppression and assassination plot and even wars against larger and formidable forces, almost eliminated, to a successful leader (to his glory).'
MUHAMMAD IS NOT OF THE LINEAGE OF KING DAVID..THAT IS WHY JEWS IN MEDINA REJECTED HIM!!!!!!!!!!! HE CAN NEVER BE MESSIAH. HE WAS NOT BORN IN BETHLEHEM, OF A VIRGIN, KING DAVID DESCENDENT, HEAL THE CRIPPLES, SIGHT TO THE BLIND, CURE LEPROSY,RAISE THE DEAD,CAST OUT DEMONS, FORGIVE SINS, etc , etc. STOP DELUDING YOURSELF! MUHAMMED WAS A MAN

12 December 2010 03:20

KINGOFHIGHCS said...
Srizals said:
'I have given the proof about the writers of the 4 gospels from Christian sites themselves.'

AGAIN I SAY 'I only look at BLOGS for knowledge about the BLOG' I never recommend, as you do, to prove points out of context. I READ BOOKS BY ESTABLISHED HISTORIANS AND ONLY QUOTE THEM!'

Finally 'The progeny of the apes weren't Jews.'

RUBBISH. One thing I pride myself on is discerning People! Your Blog is especially directed towards MOSLEMS in particular..This does not bother me, however your deceitful way to try and impress on your 'READERS' that I am the progeny of ADAM, Whereas you, the Enlightened 'Abrahamic One', is enlighteninging me by your statements is LUDICROUS! HA HA HA HA (4 X)

Even If I had a Blog, I could and would not use it to belittle anyone..You don't understand..I hate NO-ONE, MUSLIM, JEW, ATHIEST ETC, other than to say YOU ARE WRONG. SIMPLE.

PS
THE REASON LUKE IS NOT MENTIONED IS THAT LUKE WAS NOT A DISCIPLE WHO FOLLOWED CHRIST WHILE CHRIST WAS ON HIS EARTHLY MINISTRY (HE WAS A DISCIPLE OF PAUL)! SEE, I answered you previous questions accurately as there was a TRUTHFUL reason for omitting LUKE as I answered your question exactly as YOU ASKED IT!

FACTS ABOUT LUKE!
Archaeologist Sir William Ramsay wrote that "Luke is a historian of the first rank; not merely are his statements of fact trustworthy...[he] should be placed along with the very greatest of historians." Ramsay, BRDTNT, 222.
Professor of classics at Auckland University, E.M. Blaiklock, wrote: "For accuracy of detail, and for evocation of atmosphere, Luke stands, in fact, with Thucydides. The Acts of the Apostles is not shoddy product of pious imagining, but a trustworthy record...it was the spadework of archaeology which first revealed the truth." Blaiklock, The Archaeology of the New Testament, page 96, Zondervan Publishing Houst, Grand Rapids, Michigan, 1970.

So Says KINGOFHIGHCS

12 December 2010 03:27

KINGOFHIGHCS said...
Srizals said
'Ok, now back to our discussion. Since you keep on insisting about the progeny of Abraham, the descendent of Ishmael and Isaac to legitimise the claim of the Jews on Palestine. I will tell you this. Palestine issue is not about ancestry heritage or the promise made by God. The Jews themselves, at that time, over and over again, failed to live up to it on their part. They failed themselves and broke the covenant, for being so proud that God needed them. Even the Pope said that the Chosen People no longer exist. And I’m sure the incident about the golden calf, among other things, (which resemble the faith of the Pharaoh and the Egyptians that have the same calf or cow-like god) surely nullified the promise on their behalf. Moses saved them by God’s will and yet they worshipped a thing made by their own hands. And you expect God to keep His promise to them? The promise is not one-sided. You don’t break your promise and expect the other party to live up to it. What law and logic are you following?

11 December 2010 14:36'

WRONG, WRONG, WRONG...HERE (HEAR) IS THE PROMISE!

'1 “And when Abram was ninety years old and nine, the LORD appeared to Abram, and said unto him, I am the Almighty God; walk before me, and be thou perfect.
2 “And I will make MY COVENANT between me and thee, and will multiply thee exceedingly.
3 “And Abram fell on his face: and God talked with him, saying,
4 “As for me, behold, MY COVENANT is with thee, and thou shalt be a father of many nations.
5 “Neither shall thy name any more be called Abram, but thy name shall be Abraham; for a father of many nations have I made thee.
6 “And I will make thee exceeding fruitful, and I will make nations of thee, and kings shall come out of thee.
7 “And I will establish MY COVENANT between me and thee and thy seed after thee in their generations for an EVERLASTING COVENANT, to be a God unto thee, and to thy seed after thee.
8 “And I will give unto thee, and to thy seed after thee, the land wherein thou art a stranger, all the land of Canaan, for an EVERLASTING POSSESSION; and I will be their God.
9 “And God said unto Abraham, Thou shalt keep MY COVENANT therefore, thou, and thy seed after thee in their generations.
10 “This is MY COVENANT, which ye shall keep, between me and you and thy seed after thee ...” (Genesis 17:1-10).'

1. MY COVENANT..GOD not ABRAHAM honours this covenant..IT IS NOT CALLED 'OUR COVENANT'. ABRAHAM OR HIS SEED CANNOT BREAK IT OR LOSE IT, BUT THEY CAN BE DISPELLED FROM THE LAND FOR UNBELIEF.. HOWEVER THE LAND IS ALWAYS THEIR'S, IRRESPECTIVE OF FOREIGN EMPIRES OR PEOPLE CLAIMING TO BE PALESTINIAN....OR ARE YOU SAYING THIS IS NOT GODS LAND, TO GIVE TO WHO HE CHOOSES??? !!!!!
2. EVERLASTING COVENANT means FOREVER..UNTIL TIME ENDS
3 an EVERLASTING POSSESSION means FOREVER..UNTIL TIME ENDS.

SEE, YOU HAVE NOT UNDERSTOOD WHAT GOD DECLARED!!! IT IS CALLED PLAIN ENGLISH IN OUR COUNTRY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So Says KINGOFHIGHCS

12 December 2010 03:47

KINGOFHIGHCS said...
Srizals said
'The Jews themselves, at that time, over and over again, failed to live up to it on their part. They failed themselves and broke the covenant, for being so proud that God needed them. Even the Pope said that the Chosen People no longer exist. And I’m sure the incident about the golden calf, among other things, (which resemble the faith of the Pharaoh and the Egyptians that have the same calf or cow-like god) surely nullified the promise on their behalf. Moses saved them by God’s will and yet they worshipped a thing made by their own hands.

' THE JEWS, AFTER RECEIVING GOD's LAWS MADE THEMSELVES LIKE THE PEOPLE(ARABS) AROUND THEM THAT WORSHIPPED IDOL GODS(ALLAH ALSO BEING AN IDOL GOD !!). AS GOD HAD FORBIDDEN THEM NOT TO BE LIKE OTHER GENTILE NATIONS WHO DO THIS FORBIDDEN WORSHIP (ARABS ETC,) HE REMOVED HIS PROTECTION AND ALLOWED THEM TO BE SCATTERED BY THEIR ENEMIES)..AGAIN, ALLAH IS THE MOON GOD, HOW IS THIS IDOL DIFFERENT FROM A GOLDEN CALF???, SO MOSLEMS ARE CONDEMNED ALSO BY YOUR OWN WORDS!!!

'Even the Pope said that the Chosen People no longer exist.'

CATHOLICS ARE IDOL WORSHIPPERS TOO(I HAVE TOLD YOU I AM AN EX CATHOLIC).
HE IS WRONG, THEY ARE GOD'S CHOSEN PEOPLE. THE CHURCH IS NOT A CHOSEN NATION OF RACIAL DESCENT!!!!!BUT JEW AND GENTILES RECONCILED TO GOD AS INDIVIDUALS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

THE JEWS ARE GODS ONLY CHOSEN NATION!!!! HE WILL RECONCILE TO HIMSELF BEFORE ALL THEIR ENEMIES!!!!!

So Says KINGOFHIGHCS

12 December 2010 04:10

srizals said...
Mr. Kingofhighcs,
I'm referring to blogs or websites as not everyone can refer, buy, seek the books of the highly established writers. They are still man-made. They are not absolute and they are not even God's inspired. Anyway, all of us can double check the information themselves.

You kept on saying that Allah is a moon god. Can you quote any of your sources? Is there any in the Koran? Strange. If Allah is a moon god, why didn't He told the Muslims about it?

“Our Arab Christian brothers and sisters use the name "Allah" for the God of the Bible. Once again, Allah is simply the Arab word for god. In the Arabic Bible, the Word Elohim (Hebrew for God) or Theos (Greek for God) is always translated as Allah. Incidentally, the Arab Christians called God "Allah" LONG BEFORE THE BIRTH OF MUHAMMAD AND ISLAM!”
http://www.answering-islam.org/Responses/Saifullah/bibleallah.htm

“We need to address a topic that is sure to come up when using ArabBible. The textual foundation for ArabBible is the venerable Van Dyck translation, completed in Lebanon in March of 1860. You are probably aware that the term used for “God” in the Van Dyck version is “Allah”.
http://www.arabbible.com/t-Allah.aspx

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Genesis%201:1&version=ALAB
ﺗﻜﻮﻳﻦ 1:1(Arabic Life Application Bible)
ﺗﻜﻮﻳﻦ 1
1فِي الْبَدْءِ خَلَقَ اللهُ السَّمَاوَاتِ وَالأَرْض
Genesis 1:1(New King James Version)
Genesis 1The History of Creation
1 In the beginning God created the heavens and the earth.

14 December 2010 11:05

srizals said...
Mr. K: It is called plain english in our country!

Me: I ask you to clarify the meaning of the word "circumcise" as a true native speaker of the British English.
Deuteronomy 30:6 (King James Version)
6 And the LORD thy God will circumcise thine heart, and the heart of thy seed, to love the LORD thy God with all thine heart, and with all thy soul, that thou mayest live.
Deuteronomy 30:6(New King James Version)
6 And the LORD your God will circumcise your heart and the heart of your descendants, to love the LORD your God with all your heart and with all your soul, that you may live.
Deuteronomy 30:6(New International Version - UK)
6 The LORD your God will circumcise your hearts and the hearts of your descendants, so that you may love him with all your heart and with all your soul, and live.

Mr. K: muhammed was a man.

Me: Why do you think that Muslims are worshipping Muhammad? Of course he's a man. Where did I said he was god? Is there any reference in the Koran or the Hadith or from the ulama' that I didn't know about?
Sorry for any typos. Got to pray.

14 December 2010 11:09

srizals said...
"Jews and Arabs are all really children of Abraham," says Harry Ostrer, M.D., Director of the Human Genetics Program at New York University School of Medicine, an author of the new study by an international team of researchers in the United States, Europe, and Israel. "And all have preserved their Middle Eastern genetic roots over 4,000 years," he says.

The researchers analyzed the Y chromosome, which is usually passed unchanged from father to son, of more than 1,000 men worldwide. Throughout human history, alterations have occurred in the sequence of chemical bases that make up the DNA in this so-called male chromosome, leaving variations that can be pinpointed with modern genetic techniques. Related populations carry the same specific variations. In this way, scientists can track descendants of large populations and determine their common ancestors.

http://www.jews-for-allah.org/israel/jews_arabs_genetic_brothers.htm

Harry Ostrer, M.D., Director of the Human Genetics Program at New York University School of Medicine, an author of the new study by an international team of researchers in the United States, Europe, and Israel. Ok with you? He's a book writer/an author.

14 December 2010 11:40

srizals said...
The Jews are rebelling against God not according to me, but according to themselves.

In 1826, when Mordecai Noah proposed to found an all-Jewish state or colony on Grand Island near Buffalo, New York, and send letters to the rabbis of Europe asking them to be leaders in the new state, here is the answer he got from Abraham de Cologna, Chief Rabbi of Paris:

"The venerable Messrs. Herschell and Mendola, Chief Rabbis at London, and myself, thank him, but positively refuse the appointments he has been pleased to confer upon us. We declare that according to our dogmas, God alone knows the epoch of the Israelitish restoration, that he alone will make it known to the whole universe by signs entirely unequivocal, and that every attempt on our part to reassemble with any politico-national design is forbidden, as an act of high treason against the Divine Majesty."
http://www.jewsagainstzionism.com/news/currentarticle.cfm?id=218

'with any politico-national design is forbidden, as an act of high treason against the Divine Majesty.'- my emphasis.

They are supposed to wait for their Messiah. Not any 'man-made' organisation. What say you?

14 December 2010 12:32

srizals said...
What is "Lawlessness" according to the simple plain English?

21“Not everyone who says to Me, ‘Lord, Lord,’ will enter the kingdom of heaven, but he who does the will of My Father who is in heaven will enter. 22“Many will say to Me on that day, ‘Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in Your name, and in Your name cast out demons, and in Your name perform many miracles?’ 23“And then I will declare to them, ‘I never knew you; DEPART FROM ME, YOU WHO PRACTICE LAWLESSNESS.’

Matthew 7
New American Standard Bible

Is it related to murder, theft and forgery?

14 December 2010 12:47

srizals said...
"In non-Jewish populations, the SNP clusters confirmed a close relationship among Bedouins, Jordanians, Palestinians and Saudi Arabians. The patterns in Egyptians, Moroccan, Berber and Yemenite samples, though, were more similar to populations south of the Sahara."
http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2010/06/dna-study-confirms-geographical-origin-of-jews/

Books are not that up-to-date. The Internet is updated almost hourly. The DNA study strangely used the Arabs of the Middle East as their basis of comparison, don't you think that it is quite odd? I mean the significance of the Arab people to the finding.

14 December 2010 13:11

srizals said...
One more interesting fact I hope you would find in a book.

" The evidence is that this idea gained a firm hold amongst second and third century church leaders. Hippolytus (said to have died about A.D. 235) refined it in a work entitled Treatise on Christ and Antichrist. His idea was that this "vessel of Satan" would:

* Gather the Hebrew people from their dispersion
* Promise to restore their country.
* Establish again their kingdom and nation.
* Will be worshiped by them as a God.

http://www.bibleinthenews.com/home/view_print.php?id_pag=260

Are you sure which side are you on Mr. K?

14 December 2010 13:28

srizals said...
Mr. K, in the Koran, the prophets, the angels were shown to be wise and sure of themselves. In the bible, they were shown to be not that wise, confused, hasty and unsure of themselves. Some descriptions of god are also likewise. How could this be? Can we rely on those who are easily confused, quite wicked and not even taken seriously by those who are close to them?

Genesis 19 (New International Version, ©2010)
14 So Lot went out and spoke to his sons-in-law, who were pledged to marry[a] his daughters. He said, “Hurry and get out of this place, because the LORD is about to destroy the city!” But his sons-in-law thought he was joking.

Even more confusing for me, in order to avoid a sin (which is a norm these days), he was said to do this-

4 Before they had gone to bed, all the men from every part of the city of Sodom—both young and old—surrounded the house. 5 They called to Lot, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us so that we can have sex with them.”

6 Lot went outside to meet them and shut the door behind him 7 and said, “No, my friends. Don’t do this wicked thing. 8 Look, I have two daughters who have never slept with a man. Let me bring them out to you, and you can do what you like with them. But don’t do anything to these men, for they have come under the protection of my roof.”

All the men, young and old, and his two virgin daughters. Does this make any sense? Plain English Mr. K. Thanks.

14 December 2010 18:42

srizals said...
34 The next day the older daughter said to the younger, “Last night I slept with my father. Let’s get him to drink wine again tonight, and you go in and sleep with him so we can preserve our family line through our father.” 35 So they got their father to drink wine that night also, and the younger daughter went in and slept with him. Again he was not aware of it when she lay down or when she got up.

36 So both of Lot’s daughters became pregnant by their father. 37 The older daughter had a son, and she named him Moab[g]; he is the father of the Moabites of today. 38 The younger daughter also had a son, and she named him Ben-Ammi[h]; he is the father of the Ammonites[i] of today.

Maybe some gaenology information that you asked for from me is here Mr. K.

14 December 2010 18:51

srizals said...
Last but not least for tonight, since it is related your grace, who was Abraham only son? Ishmael or Isaac?

Genesis 22 (New International Version, ©2010)
2 Then God said, “Take your son, your only son, whom you love—Isaac—and go to the region of Moriah. Sacrifice him there as a burnt offering on a mountain I will show you.”

14 December 2010 19:08