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Zahi Hawass had officially written a letter to the kind government of a highly civilised West to return the beautiful Nefertiti to its rightful civilisation and owner, the great nation of the master of the Israelites. The rightful owner of all Israel, its lands, its synagogues, its people, young and old, even those who are actively being enslaved as White Slaves in the 'holy land'. Which is of course very unholy, but holiness is a term as vague as the right to exist for Israel anyway, for some who have eyes but are unable to see, but you'll see my point.
Hopefully the current restlessness would end more quickly and less bloody than Tunisia, but power is intoxicating. The powerful would be ruthless and merciless in trying to cling to it. Many would suffer. But as always, we are the very selective entity would entitled ourselves to pick and choose which is to be declared as Axis of Evil and who was Needa, and which is to be baptised brutally as the Saviour of the beautiful way of the very democratic and civilised, honourable West! Some are thieves and pirates to this very day, and yet we only know about Somali pirates!
May Allah guide them in finding their lost ancient greatness as liberators of the Holy Land and the destroyers of the mighty pagan Mongol marauders, whom the knightly Crusaders themselves were afraid to slaughter. Amin, amin, Ya Rabbal'alamin.
Should we rely on the democratic West to intervene on our behalf? Or do we prefer not too?
Monday, January 31, 2011
Repentance
[9:23]
O you who believe, do not take your fathers and your brothers as your friends, if they prefer infidelity to Faith. Those of you who have friendship with them are the wrongdoers.
[9:24]
Say, “If your fathers and your sons and your brothers and your spouses and your clan and the wealth you have earned and the trade you apprehend will recede and the homes you like are dearer to you than Allah and His Messenger and Jihād in His way, then, wait until Allah comes with His command. Allah does not lead the sinning people to the right path.”
[9:25]
Allah has surely blessed you with His help on many battlefields, and on the day of Hunain, when you were proud of your great number, then it did not help you at all, and the earth was straitened for you despite all its vastness, then you turned back on your heels.
[9:26]
Then Allah sent down His tranquility upon His Messenger and upon the believers, and sent down troops that you did not see, and punished those who disbelieved. That is the recompense of the disbelievers.
[9:27]
Yet Allah relents, after that, to whomsoever He wills. Allah is Most-Forgiving, Very-Merciful.
[9:28]
O you who believe, the Mushriks are impure indeed, so let them not approach Al-Masjid-ul-Harām after this year. And if you apprehend poverty, then, Allah shall, if He wills, make you self-sufficient with His grace. Surely, Allah is All-Knowing, All-Wise.
[9:29]
Fight those People of the Book who do not believe in Allah, nor in the Last Day, and do not take as unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have declared as unlawful, and do not profess the Faith of Truth; (fight them) until they pay jizyah with their own hands while they are subdued.
[9:30]
The Jews say, “ ‘Uzair (Ezra) is the Son of Allah” and the Christians say, “MasīH (the Christ) is the Son of Allah.” That is their oral statement. They imitate the saying of the earlier disbelievers. May Allah ruin them, how far they are turned back from the truth!
[9:31]
They have taken their rabbis and their monks as gods beside Allah, and also (they have taken) MasīH the son of Maryam (as god). And they were not commanded but to worship only One God. There is no god but He. Pure is He from what they associate with Him.
[9:32]
They wish to blow out the Light of Allah with their mouths, and Allah rejects everything short of making His light perfect, no matter how the disbelievers may hate it.
[9:33]
He is the One who has sent down His Messenger with guidance and the Faith of Truth, so that He makes it prevail over every faith, no matter how the Mushriks may hate it.
[9:34]
O you who believe, many of the rabbis and the monks do eat up the wealth of the people by false means and prevent (them) from the way of Allah. As for those who accumulate gold and silver and do not spend it in the way of Allah, give them the ‘good’ news of a painful punishment,
[9:35]
on the day it (the wealth) will be heated up in the fire of Jahannam, then their foreheads and their sides and their backs shall be branded with it: “This is what you had accumulated for yourselves. So, taste what you have been accumulating.”
[9:36]
Surely, the number of months according to Allah is twelve (as written) in the Book of Allah on the day He created the heavens and the Earth, of which there are Four Sacred Months. That is the right faith. So, do not wrong yourself therein. And fight the Mushriks all together, as they fight you all together, and be sure that Allah is with the God-fearing.
[9:37]
Nasī’ (i.e. postponement of months) is nothing but a further excess in infidelity, whereby the disbelievers are misguided. They allow it one year and disallow it another year, so that they may conform (only) to the number of what Allah has sanctified, and allow what Allah has disallowed. The evil of their deeds has been beautified for them (by Satan). And Allah does not lead the disbelieving people to the right path.
[9:38]
O you who believe, what is wrong with you that when it is said to you, “Come out in the way of Allah,” you turn heavy (and cling) to the ground. Have you become happy with the worldly life instead of the Hereafter? So, (remember that) the enjoyment of the worldly life is but trivial in (comparison with) the Hereafter.
[9:39]
If you do not march forth (in the way of Allah), He will chastise you with a painful punishment and will replace you with another nation, and you can do Him no harm at all. Allah is powerful to do anything.
[9:40]
If you do not help him, (it makes no difference to the Prophet, because) Allah has already helped him when the disbelievers expelled him, and he was the second of the two, when they were in the cave, and he was saying to his companion, “Do not grieve. Allah is surely with us.”So, Allah caused His tranquility to descend on him,
and supported him with troops that you did not see, and rendered the word of the disbelievers humiliated. And the word of Allah is the uppermost. Allah is Mighty, Wise.
[9:41]
March forth (in the way of Allah), no matter whether you are light or heavy, and carry out Jihād (struggle) in the way of Allah with your wealth and lives. That is good for you, if you were to realize.
O you who believe, do not take your fathers and your brothers as your friends, if they prefer infidelity to Faith. Those of you who have friendship with them are the wrongdoers.
[9:24]
Say, “If your fathers and your sons and your brothers and your spouses and your clan and the wealth you have earned and the trade you apprehend will recede and the homes you like are dearer to you than Allah and His Messenger and Jihād in His way, then, wait until Allah comes with His command. Allah does not lead the sinning people to the right path.”
[9:25]
Allah has surely blessed you with His help on many battlefields, and on the day of Hunain, when you were proud of your great number, then it did not help you at all, and the earth was straitened for you despite all its vastness, then you turned back on your heels.
[9:26]
Then Allah sent down His tranquility upon His Messenger and upon the believers, and sent down troops that you did not see, and punished those who disbelieved. That is the recompense of the disbelievers.
[9:27]
Yet Allah relents, after that, to whomsoever He wills. Allah is Most-Forgiving, Very-Merciful.
[9:28]
O you who believe, the Mushriks are impure indeed, so let them not approach Al-Masjid-ul-Harām after this year. And if you apprehend poverty, then, Allah shall, if He wills, make you self-sufficient with His grace. Surely, Allah is All-Knowing, All-Wise.
[9:29]
Fight those People of the Book who do not believe in Allah, nor in the Last Day, and do not take as unlawful what Allah and His Messenger have declared as unlawful, and do not profess the Faith of Truth; (fight them) until they pay jizyah with their own hands while they are subdued.
[9:30]
The Jews say, “ ‘Uzair (Ezra) is the Son of Allah” and the Christians say, “MasīH (the Christ) is the Son of Allah.” That is their oral statement. They imitate the saying of the earlier disbelievers. May Allah ruin them, how far they are turned back from the truth!
[9:31]
They have taken their rabbis and their monks as gods beside Allah, and also (they have taken) MasīH the son of Maryam (as god). And they were not commanded but to worship only One God. There is no god but He. Pure is He from what they associate with Him.
[9:32]
They wish to blow out the Light of Allah with their mouths, and Allah rejects everything short of making His light perfect, no matter how the disbelievers may hate it.
[9:33]
He is the One who has sent down His Messenger with guidance and the Faith of Truth, so that He makes it prevail over every faith, no matter how the Mushriks may hate it.
[9:34]
O you who believe, many of the rabbis and the monks do eat up the wealth of the people by false means and prevent (them) from the way of Allah. As for those who accumulate gold and silver and do not spend it in the way of Allah, give them the ‘good’ news of a painful punishment,
[9:35]
on the day it (the wealth) will be heated up in the fire of Jahannam, then their foreheads and their sides and their backs shall be branded with it: “This is what you had accumulated for yourselves. So, taste what you have been accumulating.”
[9:36]
Surely, the number of months according to Allah is twelve (as written) in the Book of Allah on the day He created the heavens and the Earth, of which there are Four Sacred Months. That is the right faith. So, do not wrong yourself therein. And fight the Mushriks all together, as they fight you all together, and be sure that Allah is with the God-fearing.
[9:37]
Nasī’ (i.e. postponement of months) is nothing but a further excess in infidelity, whereby the disbelievers are misguided. They allow it one year and disallow it another year, so that they may conform (only) to the number of what Allah has sanctified, and allow what Allah has disallowed. The evil of their deeds has been beautified for them (by Satan). And Allah does not lead the disbelieving people to the right path.
[9:38]
O you who believe, what is wrong with you that when it is said to you, “Come out in the way of Allah,” you turn heavy (and cling) to the ground. Have you become happy with the worldly life instead of the Hereafter? So, (remember that) the enjoyment of the worldly life is but trivial in (comparison with) the Hereafter.
[9:39]
If you do not march forth (in the way of Allah), He will chastise you with a painful punishment and will replace you with another nation, and you can do Him no harm at all. Allah is powerful to do anything.
[9:40]
If you do not help him, (it makes no difference to the Prophet, because) Allah has already helped him when the disbelievers expelled him, and he was the second of the two, when they were in the cave, and he was saying to his companion, “Do not grieve. Allah is surely with us.”So, Allah caused His tranquility to descend on him,
and supported him with troops that you did not see, and rendered the word of the disbelievers humiliated. And the word of Allah is the uppermost. Allah is Mighty, Wise.
[9:41]
March forth (in the way of Allah), no matter whether you are light or heavy, and carry out Jihād (struggle) in the way of Allah with your wealth and lives. That is good for you, if you were to realize.
Sunday, January 23, 2011
Awaken
Maher Zain
We were given so many prizes
We changed the desert into oasis
We built buildings of different lengths and sizes
And we felt so very satisfied
We bought and bought
We couldn't stop buying
We gave charity to the poor 'cause we couldn't stand their crying
We thought we paid our dues
But in fact
To ourselves we're just lying
Oh...I'm walking with my head lowered in shame for my place
I'm walking with my head lowered for my race
Yes it's easy to blame everything on the West
When in fact all focus should be on ourselves
We were told what to buy and we'd bought
We went to London, Paris and Costa Del Sol
We make sure we were seen in the most exlusive shops
Yes we felt so very satisfied
We felt our money gave us infinite power
We forgot to teach our children about history and honour
We didn't have any time to lose
When we were.. (were)
So busy feeling so satisfied
I'm walking with my head lowered in shame for my place
I'm walking with my head lowered for my race
Yes it's easy to blame everything on the West
When in fact all focus should be on ourselves
We became the visuals without a soul
Despite the heat
Our homes felt so empty and cold
To fill the emptiness
We bought and bought
Maybe all the fancy cars
And bling will make us feel satisfied
My dear brother and sister
It's time to change inside
Open your eyes
Don't throw away what's right aside
Before the day comes
When there's nowhere to run and hide
Now ask yourself 'cause Allah's watching you
Is He satisfied?
Is Allah satisfied?
Is Allah satisfied?
Is Allah satisfied?
Oh..I'm walking with my head lowered in shame for my place
I'm walking with my head lowered for my race
Yes it's easy to blame everything on the West
When in fact all focus should be on ourselves
Denying History
srizals@gmail.com
History is a fact that can't be denied. Even if its ugliness makes us highly uncomfortable. It is done. It's in the past. Nothing we can do now could ever change history. We can only remedy it. Making the present and the future better for ourselves and others, so that what we are doing now, would also go down in history, as it is in the making now. Some of the people that dwell in the lands of the Malay seem to be forgetting that their history was not the fault of the Malay. We do not apply their belief system and so, we do not find the grading of members of the society to certain grade, as something to be replicated and practised in our own culture. It's not our heritage, why should we? But can we go on living our lives without even mentioning history? Especially when we are somehow attached to it, also by history?
By remembering history, one would be thankful for what he has been granted with in the present. The past has passed. The present is here and now. Should we destroy the peaceful present because of the past? What more if the past is the fault of our own people, culture and religion? Who should remedy such fault if not the very people involved? The commotion of the word 'paria' in an art work, which was produced not just recently, without prejudice back then, had become another nauseating issue of over-sensitivity in the lands of the Malay. Once more, the Malay were put on the defensive for things that of not their making. Compensation would be granted more generous than ever to soothe irritated souls. How kind are the Malay to cater to all the needs and weary of all Malaysians. If only some of the Malaysians would show similar sensitivity. What a wonderful world it would be. But the Malays are adults, some of course. We have to behave accordingly when others are being childish. One can't help to be one, being so pampered and all. Let's grow up a little bit. And start working together to deal with a common foe. Stupidity. Maybe then we can focus our strength to deal with another greater foe. Greed.
History is a fact that can't be denied. Even if its ugliness makes us highly uncomfortable. It is done. It's in the past. Nothing we can do now could ever change history. We can only remedy it. Making the present and the future better for ourselves and others, so that what we are doing now, would also go down in history, as it is in the making now. Some of the people that dwell in the lands of the Malay seem to be forgetting that their history was not the fault of the Malay. We do not apply their belief system and so, we do not find the grading of members of the society to certain grade, as something to be replicated and practised in our own culture. It's not our heritage, why should we? But can we go on living our lives without even mentioning history? Especially when we are somehow attached to it, also by history?
By remembering history, one would be thankful for what he has been granted with in the present. The past has passed. The present is here and now. Should we destroy the peaceful present because of the past? What more if the past is the fault of our own people, culture and religion? Who should remedy such fault if not the very people involved? The commotion of the word 'paria' in an art work, which was produced not just recently, without prejudice back then, had become another nauseating issue of over-sensitivity in the lands of the Malay. Once more, the Malay were put on the defensive for things that of not their making. Compensation would be granted more generous than ever to soothe irritated souls. How kind are the Malay to cater to all the needs and weary of all Malaysians. If only some of the Malaysians would show similar sensitivity. What a wonderful world it would be. But the Malays are adults, some of course. We have to behave accordingly when others are being childish. One can't help to be one, being so pampered and all. Let's grow up a little bit. And start working together to deal with a common foe. Stupidity. Maybe then we can focus our strength to deal with another greater foe. Greed.
Wine and Boars
srizals said...Hurry up Mr. E.Viking, before his grace puts us on 'upon administrator approval.'
English Viking said...Srizals the liar,
Christianity concerns itself with the teachings contained in the NT, so quoting OT to try and damage Christianity is a sad, old, useless trick. Great wisdom is in the OT, a shadow of things to come, such as Psalm 104 v 15. Who made wine? Answer.
The biblical restriction is on drunkeness, not drinking, else why would Paul tell Timothy to take a little wine for his stomach? 1 Tim 5, 23. Else Why would Christ turn water into wine? John 2.
We are not concerning ourselves with the 29th book of Isaiah, but the 19th, the one you misquoted. Answer the question, troll.
Having sex with 9 year old children is commonly known (under the law of the kuffar) as rape. Therefore Mo was a kiddie-fiddler, a rapist, a pervert. So are those that follow him. Have you got a 9 year old girlfriend, Srizals? Have you 'thighed' her? (google 'thighing' if you dare.)
If you want filth, google 'honour killings'.
How many Christians 'honour kill' their children? Oh sorry, I forgot, it is the honour of the muslim to slaughter his own daughter and bury her in the back garden for 'inappropriate dress'.
I hope one day to meet you. Really.
I'm sometimes out your way, you know?
BTW, Don't 'hurry me up'.
Christianity concerns itself with the teachings contained in the NT, so quoting OT to try and damage Christianity is a sad, old, useless trick. Great wisdom is in the OT, a shadow of things to come, such as Psalm 104 v 15. Who made wine? Answer.
The biblical restriction is on drunkeness, not drinking, else why would Paul tell Timothy to take a little wine for his stomach? 1 Tim 5, 23. Else Why would Christ turn water into wine? John 2.
We are not concerning ourselves with the 29th book of Isaiah, but the 19th, the one you misquoted. Answer the question, troll.
Having sex with 9 year old children is commonly known (under the law of the kuffar) as rape. Therefore Mo was a kiddie-fiddler, a rapist, a pervert. So are those that follow him. Have you got a 9 year old girlfriend, Srizals? Have you 'thighed' her? (google 'thighing' if you dare.)
If you want filth, google 'honour killings'.
How many Christians 'honour kill' their children? Oh sorry, I forgot, it is the honour of the muslim to slaughter his own daughter and bury her in the back garden for 'inappropriate dress'.
I hope one day to meet you. Really.
I'm sometimes out your way, you know?
BTW, Don't 'hurry me up'.
srizals said...English Viking, the handsome contradictor?
"Having sex with 9 year old children is commonly known (under the law of the kuffar) as rape". Well, not in Thailand. A kuffar state!
Since when I must ask? Since the great Christian Byzantium? Since the 100 years war between France and Britain?
Since the paedophile priests taboo broke out? Since sex revolution started in the West? Since when? Do you know that current law do not bind happenings that exist before it? What more a thousand years ago? But interestingly, do you know how old a woman can conceived a child in her womb?
Is marriage the same as rape? Then I'm also a rapist, maybe even your father, and you are a result of a sadistic rape! Make up your mind, Viking! Who made those law? Puny humans or based on the Bible? I thought nowadays Christians have a Judeo-Christian heritage, why are you abandoning your Judeo heritage of the Old Testament? Was St. Paul a cancellation of Christ and Moses? Then he must have been a son of god too, since he can cancel the two great prophets! Could he be the Saint god himself??
Is a girl that have the ability of a woman, be considered as a baby? What if she herself have a baby?
You're out my way? Aren't you afraid of the terrorists? I thought you said all Muslims are blood thirsty, crazy terrorists? Why aren't you dead yet? Or are you wearing a burqa in our midst? Could you give me a hint so that I could be where you are when you're visiting my domain?
You keep on insisting the criminals as the representatives of all Muslims, 1.5 billion of them who do not copy the few criminals nor vote for them, definitely not supporting them blindly, as many Christians did! The terrorists are nobody, Mr. Viking! Your terrorists are millionaires, if not powerful billionaires! At least Muslim terrorists are honest. The Christian terrorists hide behind their terror and concealed their cross! Only the Klu Klux Klan was brave enough to use the burning cross as their symbol/identification before terrorising the poor Christian blacks!
Paul is a nobody in Islamic view! He's not a prophet nor the disciples of Christ nor a holy man. He was a tool of the Romans, and torturing was his business. So your point is?
As for Jesus made wine out of water, I definitely reject it, the Bible was corrupted remember, this is one example of it! Or one more proof of biblical contradiction!
(Leviticus 10)
10:8 And Jehovah spoke to Aaron, saying,
10:9 Thou shalt not drink wine nor strong drink, thou, and thy sons with thee, when ye go into the tent of meeting, lest ye die -- [it is] an everlasting statute throughout your generations,
10:10 that ye may put difference between the holy and the unholy, and between unclean and clean,
10:11 and that ye may teach the children of Israel all the statutes which Jehovah hath spoken to them by the hand of Moses.
(Proverbs 20:1)
Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging: and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise.
(Proverbs 4: 17)
For they eat the bread of wickedness, and drink the wine of violence.
(Joel 1:5)
Awake, ye drunkards, and weep; and howl, all ye drinkers of wine, because of the new wine; for it is cut off from your mouth.
In the Gospel of Luke, a description about John the Baptist:
(Luke 1:15)
For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb. So many verses condemning alcoholic intoxicating drinks, and yet in John 2:1-10, that tell your Jesus, which was not a prophet to you, changed his mind and decided to bless a cursed drink!
"Having sex with 9 year old children is commonly known (under the law of the kuffar) as rape". Well, not in Thailand. A kuffar state!
Since when I must ask? Since the great Christian Byzantium? Since the 100 years war between France and Britain?
Since the paedophile priests taboo broke out? Since sex revolution started in the West? Since when? Do you know that current law do not bind happenings that exist before it? What more a thousand years ago? But interestingly, do you know how old a woman can conceived a child in her womb?
Is marriage the same as rape? Then I'm also a rapist, maybe even your father, and you are a result of a sadistic rape! Make up your mind, Viking! Who made those law? Puny humans or based on the Bible? I thought nowadays Christians have a Judeo-Christian heritage, why are you abandoning your Judeo heritage of the Old Testament? Was St. Paul a cancellation of Christ and Moses? Then he must have been a son of god too, since he can cancel the two great prophets! Could he be the Saint god himself??
Is a girl that have the ability of a woman, be considered as a baby? What if she herself have a baby?
You're out my way? Aren't you afraid of the terrorists? I thought you said all Muslims are blood thirsty, crazy terrorists? Why aren't you dead yet? Or are you wearing a burqa in our midst? Could you give me a hint so that I could be where you are when you're visiting my domain?
You keep on insisting the criminals as the representatives of all Muslims, 1.5 billion of them who do not copy the few criminals nor vote for them, definitely not supporting them blindly, as many Christians did! The terrorists are nobody, Mr. Viking! Your terrorists are millionaires, if not powerful billionaires! At least Muslim terrorists are honest. The Christian terrorists hide behind their terror and concealed their cross! Only the Klu Klux Klan was brave enough to use the burning cross as their symbol/identification before terrorising the poor Christian blacks!
Paul is a nobody in Islamic view! He's not a prophet nor the disciples of Christ nor a holy man. He was a tool of the Romans, and torturing was his business. So your point is?
As for Jesus made wine out of water, I definitely reject it, the Bible was corrupted remember, this is one example of it! Or one more proof of biblical contradiction!
(Leviticus 10)
10:8 And Jehovah spoke to Aaron, saying,
10:9 Thou shalt not drink wine nor strong drink, thou, and thy sons with thee, when ye go into the tent of meeting, lest ye die -- [it is] an everlasting statute throughout your generations,
10:10 that ye may put difference between the holy and the unholy, and between unclean and clean,
10:11 and that ye may teach the children of Israel all the statutes which Jehovah hath spoken to them by the hand of Moses.
(Proverbs 20:1)
Wine is a mocker, strong drink is raging: and whosoever is deceived thereby is not wise.
(Proverbs 4: 17)
For they eat the bread of wickedness, and drink the wine of violence.
(Joel 1:5)
Awake, ye drunkards, and weep; and howl, all ye drinkers of wine, because of the new wine; for it is cut off from your mouth.
In the Gospel of Luke, a description about John the Baptist:
(Luke 1:15)
For he shall be great in the sight of the Lord, and shall drink neither wine nor strong drink; and he shall be filled with the Holy Ghost, even from his mother's womb. So many verses condemning alcoholic intoxicating drinks, and yet in John 2:1-10, that tell your Jesus, which was not a prophet to you, changed his mind and decided to bless a cursed drink!
srizals said...As for the quotation I've mentioned earlier, Isaiah 19:12, it's just to check whether you really read the Bible, and obviously you don't, for you would have known Isaiah 19:11-13 was not the same with Isaiah 29:11-13. It's my way of checking those who claimed they read the Bible actually read them, or just small talk.
Isaiah 19:12
King James Bible
'Where [are] they? where [are] thy wise [men]? and let them tell thee now, and let them know what the LORD of hosts hath purposed upon Egypt'.
You don't read nor understand the Bible!
Who is greater Mr. E.V.? St. Paul or Jesus? Why didn't Jesus have any Saint in front of his name?
Strong drink effect,
In 2003, 43,220 people died on the highways due to alcohol.
403,795 people were admitted to hospitals in 2003 because of alcohol related accidents and problems.
More people were killed by alcohol drinking on Super Bowl Day then any other day of the year.
149,000 children injured in 2003 in alcohol related accidents.
There were over 5,500 deaths of children in 2003 caused by alcohol.
Alcohol consumption in the USA was 7 liters per person or approximately 2 1/2 large bottles of Coke or Pepsi (2 Liter bottles). This amounts to approximately 2.450 billion liters per year total consumption.
Over 5,000 babies are born each year with severe birth defects because of the mother being an alcoholic.
The majority of divorces in the USA are because of adultery; the second most reason is alcohol and drug abuse.
Every year, doctors, lawyers, educators, and airplane pilots, lose jobs and their professional lives destroyed by alcohol addiction.
There are thousands of suicides each year caused by alcohol abuse.
http://jesus-messiah.com/html/drinking-wine.html
How can anyone distinguish the fine line of drinking and drunkenness? Self control?
Okay, fine, you have done well with wine, what about pigs and free sex outside marriage? Most Christians are okay with it, so, would it be presenting Christianity? Or like wine, it is bad then, and it's okay now. We have to amend to change right? Nothing is consistent!
For you Mr. E.V.
(Proverbs 4)
4:18 But the path of the righteous is as the shining light, going on and brightening until the day be fully come.
4:19 The way of the wicked is as darkness: they know not at what they stumble.
A repetition for a greater emphasis,
10:8 And Jehovah spoke to Aaron, saying,
10:9 Thou shalt not drink wine nor strong drink, thou, and thy sons with thee, when ye go into the tent of meeting, lest ye die -- [it is] an everlasting statute throughout your generations,
10:10 'that ye may put difference between the holy and the unholy, and between unclean and clean'
10:9
'..an everlasting statute throughout your generations', my emphasis.
Ps, do read your Bible before conversing with a lying little troll like me. If you don't, you'll proved that you are as what you have accused me of. Just thought I should help you out. I'm not a bully.
This time, take your time. Not too long I hope, lest we forget.
Isaiah 19:12
King James Bible
'Where [are] they? where [are] thy wise [men]? and let them tell thee now, and let them know what the LORD of hosts hath purposed upon Egypt'.
You don't read nor understand the Bible!
Who is greater Mr. E.V.? St. Paul or Jesus? Why didn't Jesus have any Saint in front of his name?
Strong drink effect,
In 2003, 43,220 people died on the highways due to alcohol.
403,795 people were admitted to hospitals in 2003 because of alcohol related accidents and problems.
More people were killed by alcohol drinking on Super Bowl Day then any other day of the year.
149,000 children injured in 2003 in alcohol related accidents.
There were over 5,500 deaths of children in 2003 caused by alcohol.
Alcohol consumption in the USA was 7 liters per person or approximately 2 1/2 large bottles of Coke or Pepsi (2 Liter bottles). This amounts to approximately 2.450 billion liters per year total consumption.
Over 5,000 babies are born each year with severe birth defects because of the mother being an alcoholic.
The majority of divorces in the USA are because of adultery; the second most reason is alcohol and drug abuse.
Every year, doctors, lawyers, educators, and airplane pilots, lose jobs and their professional lives destroyed by alcohol addiction.
There are thousands of suicides each year caused by alcohol abuse.
http://jesus-messiah.com/html/drinking-wine.html
How can anyone distinguish the fine line of drinking and drunkenness? Self control?
Okay, fine, you have done well with wine, what about pigs and free sex outside marriage? Most Christians are okay with it, so, would it be presenting Christianity? Or like wine, it is bad then, and it's okay now. We have to amend to change right? Nothing is consistent!
For you Mr. E.V.
(Proverbs 4)
4:18 But the path of the righteous is as the shining light, going on and brightening until the day be fully come.
4:19 The way of the wicked is as darkness: they know not at what they stumble.
A repetition for a greater emphasis,
10:8 And Jehovah spoke to Aaron, saying,
10:9 Thou shalt not drink wine nor strong drink, thou, and thy sons with thee, when ye go into the tent of meeting, lest ye die -- [it is] an everlasting statute throughout your generations,
10:10 'that ye may put difference between the holy and the unholy, and between unclean and clean'
10:9
'..an everlasting statute throughout your generations', my emphasis.
Ps, do read your Bible before conversing with a lying little troll like me. If you don't, you'll proved that you are as what you have accused me of. Just thought I should help you out. I'm not a bully.
This time, take your time. Not too long I hope, lest we forget.
srizals said...A Christian view point,
"Some, though, insist: "It says Jesus made wine out of water." Beloved, the word wine is oinos. The Greek word oinos is generic and does not necessarily mean fermented juice (see Bible Wines, by William Patton, pg. 89). It must also be remembered that even fermented wine in Bible days does not compare to our strong drink in alcoholic content. Again, I stress: If the wine Jesus made had been fermented, he would have not simply been engaging in what some call the temperate and social use of alcohol, but he would have been involved in providing more liquor to people who had already had "too much to drink." They would have the sinless Son of God participating and providing for a drunken orgy!"
http://www.bibletruths.net/archives/btar186.htm
"Some, though, insist: "It says Jesus made wine out of water." Beloved, the word wine is oinos. The Greek word oinos is generic and does not necessarily mean fermented juice (see Bible Wines, by William Patton, pg. 89). It must also be remembered that even fermented wine in Bible days does not compare to our strong drink in alcoholic content. Again, I stress: If the wine Jesus made had been fermented, he would have not simply been engaging in what some call the temperate and social use of alcohol, but he would have been involved in providing more liquor to people who had already had "too much to drink." They would have the sinless Son of God participating and providing for a drunken orgy!"
http://www.bibletruths.net/archives/btar186.htm
srizals said...'Distillation was not discovered until about 1500 A.D. Strong drink and unmixed wine in Bible times was from 3% to 11% alcohol. Dr. John MacArthur says "...since anybody in biblical times who drank unmixed wine (9-11% alcohol) was definitely considered a barbarian, then we dont even need to discuss whether a Christian should drink hard liquor--that is apparent!"
http://logosresourcepages.org/Believers/drinking.htm
Listen to your co-religionist. They meant well. Not unless you prefer Valhalla then the kingdom of God. Should we really gamble our fate in the afterlife?
Len has chosen to be on the safe side and become a silent spectator. Is the truth too hard to swallow than a fairy tale of the evil Islam?
http://logosresourcepages.org/Believers/drinking.htm
Listen to your co-religionist. They meant well. Not unless you prefer Valhalla then the kingdom of God. Should we really gamble our fate in the afterlife?
Len has chosen to be on the safe side and become a silent spectator. Is the truth too hard to swallow than a fairy tale of the evil Islam?
English Viking said...Srizals,
There is no point continuing this discussion if you continue to lie, misrepresent, misquote and consistently fail to answer questions.
Your answer to scriptures which prove my point is that they have been corrupted, but quote others which you falsely claim to prove yours. The scriptures you quote prove my point entirely, the biblical prohibition is on drunkeness, not on drinking.
Answer this: why will rivers of alcohol be available to muslim men in the afterlife, served to him by 'boys of perpetual youth'? Answer. You have failed to do so already, so again I say answer.
Thailand is not a kuffar nation.
aside from numerous other proofs of an earlier date, it is certain that the Greeks knew how to distill liquor in the 1st Century AD (Anno Domini, you know?)
It was only a few posts ago you were trying to claim the glory for the invention of distillation for the muslim, now you appear to have changed you mind (again).
I will, of course, be more than happy to let you know the next time I'm in Erdington.
There is no point continuing this discussion if you continue to lie, misrepresent, misquote and consistently fail to answer questions.
Your answer to scriptures which prove my point is that they have been corrupted, but quote others which you falsely claim to prove yours. The scriptures you quote prove my point entirely, the biblical prohibition is on drunkeness, not on drinking.
Answer this: why will rivers of alcohol be available to muslim men in the afterlife, served to him by 'boys of perpetual youth'? Answer. You have failed to do so already, so again I say answer.
Thailand is not a kuffar nation.
aside from numerous other proofs of an earlier date, it is certain that the Greeks knew how to distill liquor in the 1st Century AD (Anno Domini, you know?)
It was only a few posts ago you were trying to claim the glory for the invention of distillation for the muslim, now you appear to have changed you mind (again).
I will, of course, be more than happy to let you know the next time I'm in Erdington.
srizals said...Well, it's a very, very tricky job of identifying the verses in the Bible, Mr. English Viking, thanks to the meddling of men who thought they were gods, if not the sons of gods, not forgetting council chaired by a pagan!
I try to identify those which correspond with the Koran, the Torah and the Psalms, but the damage was done. For example, the Lord in the Old Testament were pictured like a blood thirsty pagan lords, that would kill and destroy without limits! Of course this would not be accepted by me and Muslims as the true word of God. Messengers of God were pictured as no different than common criminals, drunkards and adulterer! Dirty hands and ill intentions have distorted it, severely.
But remembering this verse in the Koran, soothes my anguish soul,
[2:105]
Those who disbelieve from among the people of the Book and the idolaters do not like that any good should come to you from your Lord. But Allah chooses for His grace whomsoever He wills, and Allah is the Lord of great bounty.
[2:106]
Whenever We abrogate a verse or cause it to be forgotten, We bring one better than it or one equal to it. Do you not know that Allah is powerful over everything?
[2:107]
Do you not know that to Allah alone belongs the kingdom of the heavens and the earth? Other than Allah, you have neither a patron, nor a helper.
[2:108]
Or, do you rather want to question your Prophet as Mūsā was questioned earlier? And whoever takes infidelity in exchange for faith has certainly missed the straight path.
[2:109]
(O Muslims,) many among the people of the Book desire to turn you, after your accepting the faith, back into disbelievers - all out of envy on their part, even after the truth has become clear to them. So, forgive and overlook till Allah brings out His command. Certainly, Allah is powerful over everything.
[2:110]
And be steadfast in Salāh (prayer), and give Zakāh. Whatever good you send forth for yourselves, you will find it with Allah. Certainly, Allah is watchful of what you do.
[2:111]
They say that no one shall ever enter Paradise unless he is a Jew, or a Christian. These are their fancies. Say, “Bring your proof, if you are truthful.”
[2:112]
Of course, whosoever submits his face to Allah, and is good in deeds, will have his reward with his Lord, and there shall be no fear for such people, nor shall they grieve.
I try to identify those which correspond with the Koran, the Torah and the Psalms, but the damage was done. For example, the Lord in the Old Testament were pictured like a blood thirsty pagan lords, that would kill and destroy without limits! Of course this would not be accepted by me and Muslims as the true word of God. Messengers of God were pictured as no different than common criminals, drunkards and adulterer! Dirty hands and ill intentions have distorted it, severely.
But remembering this verse in the Koran, soothes my anguish soul,
[2:105]
Those who disbelieve from among the people of the Book and the idolaters do not like that any good should come to you from your Lord. But Allah chooses for His grace whomsoever He wills, and Allah is the Lord of great bounty.
[2:106]
Whenever We abrogate a verse or cause it to be forgotten, We bring one better than it or one equal to it. Do you not know that Allah is powerful over everything?
[2:107]
Do you not know that to Allah alone belongs the kingdom of the heavens and the earth? Other than Allah, you have neither a patron, nor a helper.
[2:108]
Or, do you rather want to question your Prophet as Mūsā was questioned earlier? And whoever takes infidelity in exchange for faith has certainly missed the straight path.
[2:109]
(O Muslims,) many among the people of the Book desire to turn you, after your accepting the faith, back into disbelievers - all out of envy on their part, even after the truth has become clear to them. So, forgive and overlook till Allah brings out His command. Certainly, Allah is powerful over everything.
[2:110]
And be steadfast in Salāh (prayer), and give Zakāh. Whatever good you send forth for yourselves, you will find it with Allah. Certainly, Allah is watchful of what you do.
[2:111]
They say that no one shall ever enter Paradise unless he is a Jew, or a Christian. These are their fancies. Say, “Bring your proof, if you are truthful.”
[2:112]
Of course, whosoever submits his face to Allah, and is good in deeds, will have his reward with his Lord, and there shall be no fear for such people, nor shall they grieve.
srizals said...Paradise is not a testing ground as our earthly lives, Mr. English Viking; don't you get it by now?
The servants are boys who died in infant-hood or those who died before puberty reached them. They are sinless since they carry no burden of seeking the truth and abide by it. They got to live forever by the side of those who had passed this bitter test of life to prove himself to God. The ability to remain good, in spite of the overwhelming temptation of evil. Enduring immense hardship to remain pure. Constantly cleansing his mind and soul, should they become corrupt with time.
Have you forgotten how wonderful your life was being a boy? The adventure and the never ever tire strength of a boy? And I don't think the servants of paradise are the same with earthly servants, unless you think that there's no difference between Paradise and this life. What's the point?
As for the river of wine, do you really think that a river such as that, could really damage the mind and soul of the dwellers of paradise? There are no evil whisperers in Paradise, Mr. E.V. All evil are in a place where they belong. Burning for eternity, unless there's a slight grain of faith in their heart, they would be free, after they have done burning all their sins. And I'm not even comparing our earthly fire with it. What more the pleasures of paradise!
The dwellers of paradise do not have to compete nor strive nor suffer anything like we do. They don't even excrete, grow old and die. They have won their ultimate prize. As I hope we all will too. Insya Allah.
The servants are boys who died in infant-hood or those who died before puberty reached them. They are sinless since they carry no burden of seeking the truth and abide by it. They got to live forever by the side of those who had passed this bitter test of life to prove himself to God. The ability to remain good, in spite of the overwhelming temptation of evil. Enduring immense hardship to remain pure. Constantly cleansing his mind and soul, should they become corrupt with time.
Have you forgotten how wonderful your life was being a boy? The adventure and the never ever tire strength of a boy? And I don't think the servants of paradise are the same with earthly servants, unless you think that there's no difference between Paradise and this life. What's the point?
As for the river of wine, do you really think that a river such as that, could really damage the mind and soul of the dwellers of paradise? There are no evil whisperers in Paradise, Mr. E.V. All evil are in a place where they belong. Burning for eternity, unless there's a slight grain of faith in their heart, they would be free, after they have done burning all their sins. And I'm not even comparing our earthly fire with it. What more the pleasures of paradise!
The dwellers of paradise do not have to compete nor strive nor suffer anything like we do. They don't even excrete, grow old and die. They have won their ultimate prize. As I hope we all will too. Insya Allah.
len said...I only hope you see the light of the gospel of Jesus Christ before you meet Him in person Srizels, you either meet Jesus as saviour or Judge!
Don`t leave it too late!
Don`t leave it too late!
srizals said...But I do see the light of the gospel of Jesus Christ, Len. I believe in him with all my heart, if not, I won't be a Muslim! He was a holy beloved prophet of God! It's the deceptions of the pagan Romans that I can't accept. An enemy within is what it takes. It doesn't have to destroy the truth, a corruption would be enough.
My hope is the same with you, Len. I'm not giving up.
Where is the Viking, I wonder?
My hope is the same with you, Len. I'm not giving up.
Where is the Viking, I wonder?
Thursday, January 20, 2011
Filth: The Ones That Stood Against The Test of Time and Those Who Do Not.
srizals said...* The Indian chief Hatuey fled with his people but was captured and burned alive. As “they were tying him to the stake a Franciscan friar urged him to take Jesus to his heart so that his soul might go to heaven, rather than descend into hell. Hatuey replied that if heaven was where the Christians went, he would rather go to hell.” [SH70]
http://fraughtwithperil.com/markrogow/2011/01/11/why-christians-who-lecture-on-morality-should-make-you-sick/
http://fraughtwithperil.com/markrogow/2011/01/11/why-christians-who-lecture-on-morality-should-make-you-sick/
len said...Srizels,
Ok, I got it,Mohammed was a very nice fellow, preached love and peace, he really didn`t preach hate and violence.Mohammed was misunderstood he came to bring peace to the World.Suicide bombers have probably misunderstood the words of the prophet and are doing their 'own thing'.Jihad is misunderstood, it is the struggle of the individual Muslim with the evil West. Muslims wish the Jews well and will do all they can to help them resettle in Israel.
Islam is the most wonderful thing that ever happened to humanity.
NOT.
(Well you seem to like 'fairy tales' so I though I would give you one.)
Myself I prefer reality!
Ok, I got it,Mohammed was a very nice fellow, preached love and peace, he really didn`t preach hate and violence.Mohammed was misunderstood he came to bring peace to the World.Suicide bombers have probably misunderstood the words of the prophet and are doing their 'own thing'.Jihad is misunderstood, it is the struggle of the individual Muslim with the evil West. Muslims wish the Jews well and will do all they can to help them resettle in Israel.
Islam is the most wonderful thing that ever happened to humanity.
NOT.
(Well you seem to like 'fairy tales' so I though I would give you one.)
Myself I prefer reality!
srizals said...Len said in an annoying manner, "he really didn`t preach hate and violence."
Len, again and again you state your case through the eyes of the beholder. Why can't you provide proof from his teaching, in hadith for example, that he actually preached hate and violence? That he oppressed the weak and the innocents?
Are you saying that you should love evil and those who try to kill you and the innocents? What if murder is their favourite past time?
You seem to hold a grudge against suicide bomber anyway. I don't understand it. How could you demand someone to do something that you can't even try and hate him for that?
What 'fairy tales' are you referring to Len? The Christian atrocities upon mankind? You should really at least, read the links Len. History cannot be altered. It is the ultimate witness to man's deeds or misdeeds. And I don't think you can find any books daring to tell about the dark side of history in your civilised world. People might get upset! Especially Non Mouse.
Len, again and again you state your case through the eyes of the beholder. Why can't you provide proof from his teaching, in hadith for example, that he actually preached hate and violence? That he oppressed the weak and the innocents?
Are you saying that you should love evil and those who try to kill you and the innocents? What if murder is their favourite past time?
You seem to hold a grudge against suicide bomber anyway. I don't understand it. How could you demand someone to do something that you can't even try and hate him for that?
What 'fairy tales' are you referring to Len? The Christian atrocities upon mankind? You should really at least, read the links Len. History cannot be altered. It is the ultimate witness to man's deeds or misdeeds. And I don't think you can find any books daring to tell about the dark side of history in your civilised world. People might get upset! Especially Non Mouse.
English Viking said...Srizals,
Yes, I see you point about self defense.
Probably best if you don't come round my house then.
Yes, I see you point about self defense.
Probably best if you don't come round my house then.
srizals said...Not even for a cup of tea? Where's your viking hospitality? In Valhalla? Let someone slain you and send you to the Hall of The Slain, instead of being proud slayers of the weak!
Come on, die a warrior's death in the hands of mighty out-gunned warriors, instead of weaklings and babies. And be accompanied by non-virgin bride, defiled and torn by sadistic men! It was your culture. Or are you completely oblivious of your own Viking heritage?
Now do you know what filth is?
Come on, die a warrior's death in the hands of mighty out-gunned warriors, instead of weaklings and babies. And be accompanied by non-virgin bride, defiled and torn by sadistic men! It was your culture. Or are you completely oblivious of your own Viking heritage?
Now do you know what filth is?
English Viking said...Srizals,
I do indeed know my culture; I know where I came from, and where I'm going.
I also know that child-rape is filthy. So is FGM, so is executing people for their religious beliefs (rather than their religious actions, should those actions include terrorism, pimping, beheading of hostages, stoning of 'infidels', etc, etc).
Blowing up 'planes is filthy. Hating Jews and Israel (PBOHer) is filthy, everything about Islam, is, in my opinion, filthy.
Including its apologists.
I do indeed know my culture; I know where I came from, and where I'm going.
I also know that child-rape is filthy. So is FGM, so is executing people for their religious beliefs (rather than their religious actions, should those actions include terrorism, pimping, beheading of hostages, stoning of 'infidels', etc, etc).
Blowing up 'planes is filthy. Hating Jews and Israel (PBOHer) is filthy, everything about Islam, is, in my opinion, filthy.
Including its apologists.
English Viking said...PS,
No answer to the 'Abdullah' question in the previous post then?
No answer to the 'Abdullah' question in the previous post then?
srizals said...Who did all those things, Mr. Viking? Any references that we can share? You have opened the Pandora's box. Be prepared to submit your proof here and the said culprits. For I will.
srizals said...About Abdulah, please have patience, we have all the time in our hands. In the virtual world, we are Neo, remember? But you talk and look more like a Smith to me. Have you watched the Matrix, Mr. E.Viking?
English Viking said...Srizals,
I leave this link for others, not for you, because I know you are not interested in the truth.
A catalogue of abomination is available to be viewed here: http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
No, I have not watched 'The Matrix'. I have better things to do with my time than spend it watching twaddle.
I leave this link for others, not for you, because I know you are not interested in the truth.
A catalogue of abomination is available to be viewed here: http://www.thereligionofpeace.com/
No, I have not watched 'The Matrix'. I have better things to do with my time than spend it watching twaddle.
srizals said...That's it? I knew a lot more credible and far more hideous than them. But at least, you have a source. Congratulation!
srizals said...I have a better link for you and others,
A man came to Tawus and said, “Advise me."
Tawus said:
I advise you to love God so deeply that nothing is more beloved to you than Him; that you fear Him until there is nothing more feared by you than Him; that you long for His mercy so intensely that it prevents that fear from overwhelming you; and that you love for other people what you love for yourself. Now stand up and leave for I have summarized for you the knowledge of the Torah, the Gospels, the Psalms and the Qur’an.”
Quoted in Zaid Shakir, Treatise for The Seekers of Guidance. P. 223
http://jihadiyehudi.blogspot.com/
If you think that I have deep hatred towards the Jews. You are so dead wrong!
My resting hour is up. Got to go and make a living. Till then. Insya Allah.
A man came to Tawus and said, “Advise me."
Tawus said:
I advise you to love God so deeply that nothing is more beloved to you than Him; that you fear Him until there is nothing more feared by you than Him; that you long for His mercy so intensely that it prevents that fear from overwhelming you; and that you love for other people what you love for yourself. Now stand up and leave for I have summarized for you the knowledge of the Torah, the Gospels, the Psalms and the Qur’an.”
Quoted in Zaid Shakir, Treatise for The Seekers of Guidance. P. 223
http://jihadiyehudi.blogspot.com/
If you think that I have deep hatred towards the Jews. You are so dead wrong!
My resting hour is up. Got to go and make a living. Till then. Insya Allah.
English Viking said...Don't quote your dirty sayings to me.
"Is that it?"
A site which catalogues and sources over 16,000 terror attacks since 9/11, ALL carried out by moon-worshippers.
Yes, that's it.
BTW You love Jews really, don't you? Tell you what, make a nice big sign saying how much you love them and carry it above your head, in Islamabad (sound familiar?). You would be dead in a minute, at the hands of your own men.
"Is that it?"
A site which catalogues and sources over 16,000 terror attacks since 9/11, ALL carried out by moon-worshippers.
Yes, that's it.
BTW You love Jews really, don't you? Tell you what, make a nice big sign saying how much you love them and carry it above your head, in Islamabad (sound familiar?). You would be dead in a minute, at the hands of your own men.
srizals said...I won't do that, I would look stupid carrying a banner of sissy love this and that, don't you think so?
16k terror attacks and you still survived?? Are you a man or a man god or a god man, Mr. E.V.?
The 16k terror attacks, do they include this one,
"British mercenary firm exposed in civilian shooting incident in Iraq
Indiscriminate Killings of Civilians"
By Wayne Madsen
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?aid=1381&context=va
"Women in the second car immediately jumped out waving their scarves, trying desperately to communicate that they were civilians. The U.S. helicopter gunships continued firing on the now unshielded women. 21 people were killed and 13 were wounded."
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=18402
As for Abdullah, thanks for bringing it up, like you said, the meaning is absolutely not, the slave/the servant of the moon god!
Allah is the God, the Lord, Mr. E.V. The same message was brought by the prophets and the messengers of God since the first man, not the first ape. These chosen ones were not in their way of persecuting anyone and witnessed a stoning ritual of someone because they have a different idea of faith, and you claimed Muslim did that? You forgot St. Paul. Was St. Paul a nobody like a terrorist, Mr. English Viking?
Planes bombers,etc. are terrorists! Not some charasmatic leaders, worshipped by the nations! Supporting their leaders based on lies and hate! These terrorists are just the same advocates of terror.
http://www.foontlaw.com/Shooting.pdf
Funny how the likes of you are so quick in associating the Muslims with the terrorists! You're quick too in detaching yourselves from atrocities committed by your nation against the world until now. How sad.
16k terror attacks and you still survived?? Are you a man or a man god or a god man, Mr. E.V.?
The 16k terror attacks, do they include this one,
"British mercenary firm exposed in civilian shooting incident in Iraq
Indiscriminate Killings of Civilians"
By Wayne Madsen
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?aid=1381&context=va
"Women in the second car immediately jumped out waving their scarves, trying desperately to communicate that they were civilians. The U.S. helicopter gunships continued firing on the now unshielded women. 21 people were killed and 13 were wounded."
http://www.globalresearch.ca/index.php?context=va&aid=18402
As for Abdullah, thanks for bringing it up, like you said, the meaning is absolutely not, the slave/the servant of the moon god!
Allah is the God, the Lord, Mr. E.V. The same message was brought by the prophets and the messengers of God since the first man, not the first ape. These chosen ones were not in their way of persecuting anyone and witnessed a stoning ritual of someone because they have a different idea of faith, and you claimed Muslim did that? You forgot St. Paul. Was St. Paul a nobody like a terrorist, Mr. English Viking?
Planes bombers,etc. are terrorists! Not some charasmatic leaders, worshipped by the nations! Supporting their leaders based on lies and hate! These terrorists are just the same advocates of terror.
http://www.foontlaw.com/Shooting.pdf
Funny how the likes of you are so quick in associating the Muslims with the terrorists! You're quick too in detaching yourselves from atrocities committed by your nation against the world until now. How sad.
srizals said...Allah was not something new brought up by Muhammad s.a.w. Everyone knew about Him since the beginning of time, hopefully we will too, in the end of time or our time on this short lives of ours. Even Avenzoar knew about Him, and he was an Andalusian Spanish! He didn't won any Nobel Prize of course.
Allah was known by all before Muhammad. It is only envy and proudness that made them blind.
2:8]
And among men there are some who say, “We believe in Allah and in the Last Day”, yet they are not believers.
[2:9]
They try to deceive Allah and those who believe, while they are not deceiving anyone except themselves, although they are unaware of it.
[2:10]
In their hearts there is a malady, so Allah has made them grow in their malady; and for them there is a grievous punishment, because they have been lying.
[2:11]
When it is said to them, “Do not spread disorder on the earth”, they say, “We are but reformers.”
[2:12]
Beware, it is, in fact, they who spread disorder, but they do not appreciate.
Allah was and is the God of Adam, Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad. They all carried the same message, the oneness of God.
Allah was known by all before Muhammad. It is only envy and proudness that made them blind.
2:8]
And among men there are some who say, “We believe in Allah and in the Last Day”, yet they are not believers.
[2:9]
They try to deceive Allah and those who believe, while they are not deceiving anyone except themselves, although they are unaware of it.
[2:10]
In their hearts there is a malady, so Allah has made them grow in their malady; and for them there is a grievous punishment, because they have been lying.
[2:11]
When it is said to them, “Do not spread disorder on the earth”, they say, “We are but reformers.”
[2:12]
Beware, it is, in fact, they who spread disorder, but they do not appreciate.
Allah was and is the God of Adam, Abraham, Moses, Jesus and Muhammad. They all carried the same message, the oneness of God.
srizals said...[28:29]
So, when Mūsā completed the term and set forth with his wife, he noticed a fire from the direction of (the mount) Tūr, he said to his wife, “Stay here; I have noticed a fire. May be I bring to you some information or an ember from the fire, so that you may warm yourself.”
[28:30]
So when he came to it, he was called by a voice coming from a side of the right valley in the blessed ground, from the tree, saying, “O Mūsā, I AM ALLAH, the Lord of the worlds,”
In the Bible,
"I am the Lord that maketh all things;
that stretcheth forth the heavens alone,
that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself" (Isaiah 44:24).
Where was Jesus and the Holy Spirit?
"Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any," (Isaiah 44:8b). "I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God," (Isaiah 44:6b).
Prophet Moses said,
Deuteronomy 6,
3 Hear, Israel, and be careful to obey so that it may go well with you and that you may increase greatly in a land flowing with milk and honey, just as the LORD, the God of your ancestors, promised you.
4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one.
Even the Jews knew Allah. Are you denying the origin of Christianity?
So, when Mūsā completed the term and set forth with his wife, he noticed a fire from the direction of (the mount) Tūr, he said to his wife, “Stay here; I have noticed a fire. May be I bring to you some information or an ember from the fire, so that you may warm yourself.”
[28:30]
So when he came to it, he was called by a voice coming from a side of the right valley in the blessed ground, from the tree, saying, “O Mūsā, I AM ALLAH, the Lord of the worlds,”
In the Bible,
"I am the Lord that maketh all things;
that stretcheth forth the heavens alone,
that spreadeth abroad the earth by myself" (Isaiah 44:24).
Where was Jesus and the Holy Spirit?
"Is there a God beside me? yea, there is no God; I know not any," (Isaiah 44:8b). "I am the first, and I am the last; and beside me there is no God," (Isaiah 44:6b).
Prophet Moses said,
Deuteronomy 6,
3 Hear, Israel, and be careful to obey so that it may go well with you and that you may increase greatly in a land flowing with milk and honey, just as the LORD, the God of your ancestors, promised you.
4 Hear, O Israel: The LORD our God, the LORD is one.
Even the Jews knew Allah. Are you denying the origin of Christianity?
English Viking said...Srizals,
Why don't you ever answer the question?
The attacks by my country (I think you mean USA, but never mind) are not motivated by religion, nor committed by Christians.
You are a liar.
PS The origin if Christianity is Christ, not your dirty moon-god.
Why don't you ever answer the question?
The attacks by my country (I think you mean USA, but never mind) are not motivated by religion, nor committed by Christians.
You are a liar.
PS The origin if Christianity is Christ, not your dirty moon-god.
srizals said...My God, English Viking! You don't even know the divine revelation made to Bush? Where were you all this while? Stuck in somewhere without Internet connection?
"God told me"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOTkVhfMWcw
"Doing god's work"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgCeFXeuE4U&feature=related
"May god bless our country and all who defend her."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkOCIfNQXP0&feature=related
And don' forget this one,
"Inside Abu Ghraib"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZ_Vxoyu8zY
"Religion also surfaced as an issue when Mr Bush and Tony Blair were reported to have prayed together in 2002 at his ranch at Crawford, Texas - the summit at which the invasion of Iraq was agreed in principle. Mr Blair has consistently refused to admit or deny the claim".
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/oct/07/iraq.usa
http://www.conscious-sedation.com/Bush/_Did%20Bush%20Say%20God%20Told%20Him%20To%20Go%20To%20War.pdf
And you are more oblivious about the bible inscriptions ingrained on guns, invented to kill. I'm sure there's no Christianity involved.
"The inscription JN8:12 on the Army's new gunsights is a reference to John, chapter 8, verse 12, which says: 'When Jesus spoke again to the people, he said, "I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1244440/U-S-military-weapons-dubbed-Jesus-guns-inscribed-secret-Bible-messages.html
"One of the citations on the gun sights, 2COR4:6, is an apparent reference to Second Corinthians 4:6 of the New Testament, which reads: "For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ."
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/us-military-weapons-inscribed-secret-jesus-bible-codes/story?id=9575794
Who are you E.V.? What Christian are you? The one that believe in the trinity or the one that do not? The one that believe the divinity of Mary or the one who do not? Which bible do you read?
"God told me"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pOTkVhfMWcw
"Doing god's work"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tgCeFXeuE4U&feature=related
"May god bless our country and all who defend her."
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bkOCIfNQXP0&feature=related
And don' forget this one,
"Inside Abu Ghraib"
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LZ_Vxoyu8zY
"Religion also surfaced as an issue when Mr Bush and Tony Blair were reported to have prayed together in 2002 at his ranch at Crawford, Texas - the summit at which the invasion of Iraq was agreed in principle. Mr Blair has consistently refused to admit or deny the claim".
http://www.guardian.co.uk/world/2005/oct/07/iraq.usa
http://www.conscious-sedation.com/Bush/_Did%20Bush%20Say%20God%20Told%20Him%20To%20Go%20To%20War.pdf
And you are more oblivious about the bible inscriptions ingrained on guns, invented to kill. I'm sure there's no Christianity involved.
"The inscription JN8:12 on the Army's new gunsights is a reference to John, chapter 8, verse 12, which says: 'When Jesus spoke again to the people, he said, "I am the light of the world. Whoever follows me will never walk in darkness, but will have the light of life"
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1244440/U-S-military-weapons-dubbed-Jesus-guns-inscribed-secret-Bible-messages.html
"One of the citations on the gun sights, 2COR4:6, is an apparent reference to Second Corinthians 4:6 of the New Testament, which reads: "For God, who commanded the light to shine out of darkness, hath shined in our hearts, to give the light of the knowledge of the glory of God in the face of Jesus Christ."
http://abcnews.go.com/Blotter/us-military-weapons-inscribed-secret-jesus-bible-codes/story?id=9575794
Who are you E.V.? What Christian are you? The one that believe in the trinity or the one that do not? The one that believe the divinity of Mary or the one who do not? Which bible do you read?
srizals said...And about the feared al-Muhajiroun in Luton, Old Grumpy,
http://www.islamophobia-watch.com/islamophobia-watch/2011/1/17/resisting-al-muhajiroun-in-luton.html
Some interesting question about Mecca according to the Bible,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBO_q9KOpHM
About Abdullah, Allah was not invented by Muhammad, you proved it yourself, Muhammad only correct the wrong understanding of the pagans and the people about Allah, that's all. Unless you have proof to state otherwise with your point "Abdullah".
My faith doesn't require the blood of the innocents to be spilled. Yours seem to be relying on it, heavily.
If Allah was a moon god, why didn't the Muslims faced the moon itself during prayers? Can you answer that Len? The Japanese bow to the morning sun. Find at least one Muslim that bow to the moon.
Refute this Len,
In Isaiah, it was prophesied that the revelation of God will be revealed to the one who cannot read. Only Muhammad matched this description.
Isaiah 19:11-13
King James Bible
'And the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed, which [men] deliver to one that is learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I cannot; for it [is] sealed':
'And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned'.
'The Lord says: "These people come near to me with their mouth and honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. Their worship of me is made up only of rules taught by men'.
Remember Nicaea?
Mr. Bush said,
"I'm surely not going to justify war based upon God. Understand that. Nevertheless, in my case, I pray that I will be as good a messenger of His will as possible. And then of course, I pray for forgiveness."
'Another telling sign of Mr Bush's religion was his answer to Mr Woodward's question on whether he had asked his father - the former president who refused to launch a full-scale invasion of Iraq after driving Saddam Hussein from Kuwait in 1991 - for advice on what to do'.
One more about your President and nothing about Christianity.
"The current President replied that his earthly father was "the wrong father to appeal to for advice ... there is a higher father that I appeal to".
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/1007-03.htm
Who's the liar now, Mr. E.Viking?
http://www.islamophobia-watch.com/islamophobia-watch/2011/1/17/resisting-al-muhajiroun-in-luton.html
Some interesting question about Mecca according to the Bible,
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XBO_q9KOpHM
About Abdullah, Allah was not invented by Muhammad, you proved it yourself, Muhammad only correct the wrong understanding of the pagans and the people about Allah, that's all. Unless you have proof to state otherwise with your point "Abdullah".
My faith doesn't require the blood of the innocents to be spilled. Yours seem to be relying on it, heavily.
If Allah was a moon god, why didn't the Muslims faced the moon itself during prayers? Can you answer that Len? The Japanese bow to the morning sun. Find at least one Muslim that bow to the moon.
Refute this Len,
In Isaiah, it was prophesied that the revelation of God will be revealed to the one who cannot read. Only Muhammad matched this description.
Isaiah 19:11-13
King James Bible
'And the vision of all is become unto you as the words of a book that is sealed, which [men] deliver to one that is learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I cannot; for it [is] sealed':
'And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned'.
'The Lord says: "These people come near to me with their mouth and honor me with their lips, but their hearts are far from me. Their worship of me is made up only of rules taught by men'.
Remember Nicaea?
Mr. Bush said,
"I'm surely not going to justify war based upon God. Understand that. Nevertheless, in my case, I pray that I will be as good a messenger of His will as possible. And then of course, I pray for forgiveness."
'Another telling sign of Mr Bush's religion was his answer to Mr Woodward's question on whether he had asked his father - the former president who refused to launch a full-scale invasion of Iraq after driving Saddam Hussein from Kuwait in 1991 - for advice on what to do'.
One more about your President and nothing about Christianity.
"The current President replied that his earthly father was "the wrong father to appeal to for advice ... there is a higher father that I appeal to".
http://www.commondreams.org/headlines05/1007-03.htm
Who's the liar now, Mr. E.Viking?
srizals said...And a lovely comic for Kiwi,
'Captain Israel, a kosher superman, is holding a Menorah torch. He is there to set the entire region on fire'.
http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/gilad-atzmon-captain-israel-a-sickening-hasbara-magazine-for.html
'Captain Israel, a kosher superman, is holding a Menorah torch. He is there to set the entire region on fire'.
http://www.gilad.co.uk/writings/gilad-atzmon-captain-israel-a-sickening-hasbara-magazine-for.html
srizals said...And also a good article about Dr. Morey and his theory of the moon god.
"Among His Signs are the Night and the Day and the Sun and Moon. Prostrate (adore) not to the Sun and the Moon but prostrate to Allah, Who created them, if it is Him ye wish to serve."
Holy Qur'an 41:37
'Finally, Jesus Christ and many of his disciples spoke Aramaic. In the Aramaic language the word for the Almighty God is ‘Allaha’ and the name of Jesus is 'Iessa'. There are records of Jesus praying in Aramaic to his God 'Allaha". Was Christ also misguided by the Pagan Arabs?'
http://www.mostmerciful.com/moongod.htm
Please desist from using the moongod theory, guys. It is embarrassing.
Dr. Morey and the moon. Hmm..
"Among His Signs are the Night and the Day and the Sun and Moon. Prostrate (adore) not to the Sun and the Moon but prostrate to Allah, Who created them, if it is Him ye wish to serve."
Holy Qur'an 41:37
'Finally, Jesus Christ and many of his disciples spoke Aramaic. In the Aramaic language the word for the Almighty God is ‘Allaha’ and the name of Jesus is 'Iessa'. There are records of Jesus praying in Aramaic to his God 'Allaha". Was Christ also misguided by the Pagan Arabs?'
http://www.mostmerciful.com/moongod.htm
Please desist from using the moongod theory, guys. It is embarrassing.
Dr. Morey and the moon. Hmm..
srizals said...'Mirza cites the Muslim’s use of the lunar calendar to point at the significance of the moon, if Mirza had studied further he would have realized that many Eastern societies use(d) the moon for marking time, it is not only the Muslims, the Chinese, the Jews and Hindu communities have also used the moon for this purpose too'
http://muxlim.com/blogs/Yahya_Snow/was-allah-the-moon-god-of-ancient-arab-pagan-no-a-refutation-of-/
http://muxlim.com/blogs/Yahya_Snow/was-allah-the-moon-god-of-ancient-arab-pagan-no-a-refutation-of-/
srizals said...Mr. E.Viking asked,
"How can his father have been a servant of a god whose name was not revealed until his son was a full grown man?"
I have answered your question, could you please answer mine,
The trinity consists of the father, the son and the holy ghost. How can a son also be the father? Could he fathered himself? And could a son being born to a mother invented by him? Who exist first?
"How can his father have been a servant of a god whose name was not revealed until his son was a full grown man?"
I have answered your question, could you please answer mine,
The trinity consists of the father, the son and the holy ghost. How can a son also be the father? Could he fathered himself? And could a son being born to a mother invented by him? Who exist first?
English Viking said...Srizals,
Blair and Bush are not Christians. That is obvious, they are not following Christ. Various terrorists around the world, on a daily basis, are, however, following the bloody and gruesome example of Mo.
The Son is most certainly not the Father.
Google 'Orthodox Reformed Theology'.
The one in Isaiah 19 speaks, who was unable to read the book, was unable to do so because it was sealed, not because he was an illiterate-warlord rapist.
Blair and Bush are not Christians. That is obvious, they are not following Christ. Various terrorists around the world, on a daily basis, are, however, following the bloody and gruesome example of Mo.
The Son is most certainly not the Father.
Google 'Orthodox Reformed Theology'.
The one in Isaiah 19 speaks, who was unable to read the book, was unable to do so because it was sealed, not because he was an illiterate-warlord rapist.
English Viking said...Srizals,
Typo. replace 'in Isaiah 19 speaks' with 'of whom Isaiah 19 speaks'.
Thank you.
Typo. replace 'in Isaiah 19 speaks' with 'of whom Isaiah 19 speaks'.
Thank you.
srizals said...You said, 'following the bloody and gruesome example of Mo'. You even claimed that he was a rapist!
Could you please list them here, with proof, specifically so that I can understand how you have come to those conclusions and compare them with my knowledge. Please state them based on your understanding, not resources from websites, which I'm sure is aplenty, but I can't refute them directly. They don't have any comment-enabled gadget!
Isaiah 29:12
''And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned'.
No seal mentioned here.
'Muhammad (s) was forty when, during his one of many retreats to Mount Hira for meditation during the month of Ramadan, he received the first revelation from the Archangel Jibril (Gabriel). On this first appearance, Gabriel (as) said to Muhammad: "Iqraa," meaning Read or Recite. Muhammad replied, "I cannot read," as he had not received any formal education and did not know how to read or write. The Angel Gabriel then embraced him until he reached the limit of his endurance and after releasing said: "Iqraa." Muhammad’s answer was the same as before. Gabriel repeated the embrace for the third time, asked him to repeat after him and said:
"Recite in the name of your Lord who created! He created man from that which clings. Recite; and thy Lord is most Bountiful, He who has taught by the pen, taught man what he knew not."
http://www.cyberistan.org/islamic/muhammad.html
http://www.britannica.com/bps/additionalcontent/18/35341331/Muhammads-first-Revelation
The Spider
With the name of Allah, the All-Merciful, the Very-Merciful.
[29:45]
Recite (O Prophet) what is revealed to you of the Book, and establish Salāh . Surely Salāh restrains one from shameful and evil acts. Indeed remembrance of Allah is the greatest of all things. Allah knows what you do.
[29:46]
Do not debate with the people of the Book unless it is in the best manner, except with those of them who commit injustice. And say, “We believe in what is sent down to us and sent down to you, and our God and your God is One, and to Him we submit (ourselves).”
[29:47]
Thus We have sent down the Book to you. So those to whom We have given the Book believe in it. And from these (the people of Makkah) there are ones who believe in it, and no one rejects Our verses except the infidels.
[29:48]
You (O Prophet,) have never been reciting any book before this, nor have you been writing it with your right hand; had it been so, the adherents of falsehood would have raised doubts.
Mr. English Viking,
You yourself know that Muhammad s.a.w. was an illiterate, and you know how much writing of Christianity in the OT and the NT, not to mentioned the perished ones after Nicaea. Can an illiterate memorised them all so well and present it anew in a more beautiful way? Yes or no? If he had a helper, wouldn't it be wiser for the helper to declare himself as a prophet in the middle of the hostile and barbaric, powerful pagans?
And as for Aisyah r.a., maybe this piece of writing would make you understand her importance. Who could argue with a man's wife that he knew him better than her? In this way, his hadith/sayings were preserved decades after his return to the Lord's mercy, to more Muslims and scholars.
'Later, Muhammad married additional wives, nine of whom survived him.[48] Aisha, who became known as Muhammad's favourite wife in Sunni tradition, survived him by many decades and was instrumental in helping to bring together the scattered sayings of Muhammad that would form the Hadith literature for the Sunni branch of Islam'.[53]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad
53. ^ a b c d e Watt, Aisha, Encyclopedia of Islam
I have my own Islamic sources, in Arabic, English and Malay, but I'll provide non-Islamic sources here to avoid being biased. The azan for the evening prayer is calling me. I'll be back.
Could you please list them here, with proof, specifically so that I can understand how you have come to those conclusions and compare them with my knowledge. Please state them based on your understanding, not resources from websites, which I'm sure is aplenty, but I can't refute them directly. They don't have any comment-enabled gadget!
Isaiah 29:12
''And the book is delivered to him that is not learned, saying, Read this, I pray thee: and he saith, I am not learned'.
No seal mentioned here.
'Muhammad (s) was forty when, during his one of many retreats to Mount Hira for meditation during the month of Ramadan, he received the first revelation from the Archangel Jibril (Gabriel). On this first appearance, Gabriel (as) said to Muhammad: "Iqraa," meaning Read or Recite. Muhammad replied, "I cannot read," as he had not received any formal education and did not know how to read or write. The Angel Gabriel then embraced him until he reached the limit of his endurance and after releasing said: "Iqraa." Muhammad’s answer was the same as before. Gabriel repeated the embrace for the third time, asked him to repeat after him and said:
"Recite in the name of your Lord who created! He created man from that which clings. Recite; and thy Lord is most Bountiful, He who has taught by the pen, taught man what he knew not."
http://www.cyberistan.org/islamic/muhammad.html
http://www.britannica.com/bps/additionalcontent/18/35341331/Muhammads-first-Revelation
The Spider
With the name of Allah, the All-Merciful, the Very-Merciful.
[29:45]
Recite (O Prophet) what is revealed to you of the Book, and establish Salāh . Surely Salāh restrains one from shameful and evil acts. Indeed remembrance of Allah is the greatest of all things. Allah knows what you do.
[29:46]
Do not debate with the people of the Book unless it is in the best manner, except with those of them who commit injustice. And say, “We believe in what is sent down to us and sent down to you, and our God and your God is One, and to Him we submit (ourselves).”
[29:47]
Thus We have sent down the Book to you. So those to whom We have given the Book believe in it. And from these (the people of Makkah) there are ones who believe in it, and no one rejects Our verses except the infidels.
[29:48]
You (O Prophet,) have never been reciting any book before this, nor have you been writing it with your right hand; had it been so, the adherents of falsehood would have raised doubts.
Mr. English Viking,
You yourself know that Muhammad s.a.w. was an illiterate, and you know how much writing of Christianity in the OT and the NT, not to mentioned the perished ones after Nicaea. Can an illiterate memorised them all so well and present it anew in a more beautiful way? Yes or no? If he had a helper, wouldn't it be wiser for the helper to declare himself as a prophet in the middle of the hostile and barbaric, powerful pagans?
And as for Aisyah r.a., maybe this piece of writing would make you understand her importance. Who could argue with a man's wife that he knew him better than her? In this way, his hadith/sayings were preserved decades after his return to the Lord's mercy, to more Muslims and scholars.
'Later, Muhammad married additional wives, nine of whom survived him.[48] Aisha, who became known as Muhammad's favourite wife in Sunni tradition, survived him by many decades and was instrumental in helping to bring together the scattered sayings of Muhammad that would form the Hadith literature for the Sunni branch of Islam'.[53]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Muhammad
53. ^ a b c d e Watt, Aisha, Encyclopedia of Islam
I have my own Islamic sources, in Arabic, English and Malay, but I'll provide non-Islamic sources here to avoid being biased. The azan for the evening prayer is calling me. I'll be back.
srizals said...The complete story is narrated by Aisha (peace be upon her) in Sahih Al-Bukhari:
"The commencement of the Divine Inspiration of Allah's Apostle was in the form of good dreams which came true like bright daylight, and then the love of seclusion was bestowed upon him. He used to go in seclusion in the cave of Hira where he used to worship (Allah alone) continually for many days before wishing to see his family. He used to take with him provisions for the stay and then come back to (his wife) Khadeejah to eat his food again as before.
One day suddenly the Truth descended upon him while he was in the cave of Hira. The angel came to him and asked him to read. The Prophet (peace be upon him) replied, "I do not know how to read." The Prophet (peace be upon him) added, "The angel caught me (forcefully) and pressed me so hard that I could not bear it any more. He then released me and again asked me to read and I replied, "I do not know how to read." Thereupon he caught me again and pressed me a second time until I could not bear it any more. He then released me and again asked me to read but again I replied, "I do not know how to read (or what shall I read)?" Thereupon he caught me for the third time and pressed me, and then released me and said, "Read in the name of your Lord, who has created (all that exists), created man from a clot. Read! And your Lord is the Most Generous.'"(96):1-3.
Then Allah's Apostle (peace be upon him) returned with the Inspiration and with his heart trembling. He went to Khadeejah the daughter of Khuwaylid (his wife) and said, "Cover me!" She covered him until his fear subsided. After that he told her everything that had happened and said, "I fear that something may happen to me." Khadeejah replied, "Never! By Allah, Allah will never disgrace you. You keep good relations with your kith and kin, help the poor and the destitute, serve your guests generously and assist the deserving people afflicted with calamities."
Khadeejah then accompanied him to her cousin Waraqah ibn Nawfal ibn Asad ibn AbdulUzza, who, during the pre-Islamic period became a Christian and used to write in the Hebrew alphabet. He would write from the Gospel in Hebrew as much as Allah wished him to write. He was an old man and had lost his eyesight.
Khadeejah said to Waraqah, "Listen to the story of your nephew, O my cousin!" Waraqah asked, "O my nephew! What have you seen?" Allah's Apostle described that which he had seen. Waraqah said, "This is the one who keeps the secrets (angel Gabriel) whom Allah had sent to Moses. I wish I were young and could live until the time when your people will turn you out." Allah's Apostle asked, "Will they drive me out?" Waraqah replied in the affirmative and said, "Anyone (man) who came with something similar to that which you have brought was greeted with hostility; and if I remain alive until the day when you will be turned out then I should support you strongly."
"The commencement of the Divine Inspiration of Allah's Apostle was in the form of good dreams which came true like bright daylight, and then the love of seclusion was bestowed upon him. He used to go in seclusion in the cave of Hira where he used to worship (Allah alone) continually for many days before wishing to see his family. He used to take with him provisions for the stay and then come back to (his wife) Khadeejah to eat his food again as before.
One day suddenly the Truth descended upon him while he was in the cave of Hira. The angel came to him and asked him to read. The Prophet (peace be upon him) replied, "I do not know how to read." The Prophet (peace be upon him) added, "The angel caught me (forcefully) and pressed me so hard that I could not bear it any more. He then released me and again asked me to read and I replied, "I do not know how to read." Thereupon he caught me again and pressed me a second time until I could not bear it any more. He then released me and again asked me to read but again I replied, "I do not know how to read (or what shall I read)?" Thereupon he caught me for the third time and pressed me, and then released me and said, "Read in the name of your Lord, who has created (all that exists), created man from a clot. Read! And your Lord is the Most Generous.'"(96):1-3.
Then Allah's Apostle (peace be upon him) returned with the Inspiration and with his heart trembling. He went to Khadeejah the daughter of Khuwaylid (his wife) and said, "Cover me!" She covered him until his fear subsided. After that he told her everything that had happened and said, "I fear that something may happen to me." Khadeejah replied, "Never! By Allah, Allah will never disgrace you. You keep good relations with your kith and kin, help the poor and the destitute, serve your guests generously and assist the deserving people afflicted with calamities."
Khadeejah then accompanied him to her cousin Waraqah ibn Nawfal ibn Asad ibn AbdulUzza, who, during the pre-Islamic period became a Christian and used to write in the Hebrew alphabet. He would write from the Gospel in Hebrew as much as Allah wished him to write. He was an old man and had lost his eyesight.
Khadeejah said to Waraqah, "Listen to the story of your nephew, O my cousin!" Waraqah asked, "O my nephew! What have you seen?" Allah's Apostle described that which he had seen. Waraqah said, "This is the one who keeps the secrets (angel Gabriel) whom Allah had sent to Moses. I wish I were young and could live until the time when your people will turn you out." Allah's Apostle asked, "Will they drive me out?" Waraqah replied in the affirmative and said, "Anyone (man) who came with something similar to that which you have brought was greeted with hostility; and if I remain alive until the day when you will be turned out then I should support you strongly."
srizals said...Mr. E.Viking, you said you were allowed to consume alcohol, what about these verses?
I Corinthians 5:11-13
'But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat. For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person'.
Galatians 5:19-21
'Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God'.
Isaiah 28:7
'But they also have erred through wine, and through strong drink are out of the way; the priest and the prophet have erred through strong drink, they are swallowed up of wine, they are out of the way through strong drink; they err in vision, they stumble in judgment'.
Proverbs 23:29-35
'Who hath woe? who hath sorrow? who hath contentions? who hath babbling? who hath wounds without cause? who hath redness of eyes? They that tarry long at the wine; they that go to seek mixed wine. Look not thou upon the wine when it is red, when it giveth his color in the cup, when it moveth itself aright. At the last it biteth like a serpent, and stingeth like an adder. Thine eyes shall behold strange women, and thine heart shall utter perverse things. Yea, thou shalt be as he that lieth down in the midst of the sea, or as he that lieth upon the top of a mast. They have stricken me, shalt thou say, and I was not sick; they have beaten me, and I felt it not: when shall I awake? I will seek it yet again'.
Can something unclean and declared unlawful be considered lawful once more? What kind of law is that? Without consistency that is.
Leviticus 11:7-8 (New International Version)
11:7) 'And the pig, though it has a split hoof completely divided, does not chew the cud; it is unclean for you'.
11:8) 'You must not eat their meat or touch their carcasses; they are unclean for you'.
Deuteronomy 14:8 (New International Version)
14:8) 'The pig is also unclean; although it has a split hoof, it does not chew the cud. You are not to eat their meat or touch their carcasses'.
Some say somehow that with the coming of the NT, all that were forbidden, are now allowed for Christians, but I'm confused with this verse,
Jesus said,
Matthew 5:17 (New International Version)
5:17) 'Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfil them'.
So, my question to you Mr. E. Viking, between Muslims and Christians, who had adhered fully to the filth concept in the Bible? And who had not considered the filth in the Bible as filth. Thanks.
I Corinthians 5:11-13
'But now I have written unto you not to keep company, if any man that is called a brother be a fornicator, or covetous, or an idolater, or a railer, or a drunkard, or an extortioner; with such an one no not to eat. For what have I to do to judge them also that are without? do not ye judge them that are within? But them that are without God judgeth. Therefore put away from among yourselves that wicked person'.
Galatians 5:19-21
'Now the works of the flesh are manifest, which are these; Adultery, fornication, uncleanness, lasciviousness, Idolatry, witchcraft, hatred, variance, emulations, wrath, strife, seditions, heresies, envyings, murders, drunkenness, revellings, and such like: of the which I tell you before, as I have also told you in time past, that they which do such things shall not inherit the kingdom of God'.
Isaiah 28:7
'But they also have erred through wine, and through strong drink are out of the way; the priest and the prophet have erred through strong drink, they are swallowed up of wine, they are out of the way through strong drink; they err in vision, they stumble in judgment'.
Proverbs 23:29-35
'Who hath woe? who hath sorrow? who hath contentions? who hath babbling? who hath wounds without cause? who hath redness of eyes? They that tarry long at the wine; they that go to seek mixed wine. Look not thou upon the wine when it is red, when it giveth his color in the cup, when it moveth itself aright. At the last it biteth like a serpent, and stingeth like an adder. Thine eyes shall behold strange women, and thine heart shall utter perverse things. Yea, thou shalt be as he that lieth down in the midst of the sea, or as he that lieth upon the top of a mast. They have stricken me, shalt thou say, and I was not sick; they have beaten me, and I felt it not: when shall I awake? I will seek it yet again'.
Can something unclean and declared unlawful be considered lawful once more? What kind of law is that? Without consistency that is.
Leviticus 11:7-8 (New International Version)
11:7) 'And the pig, though it has a split hoof completely divided, does not chew the cud; it is unclean for you'.
11:8) 'You must not eat their meat or touch their carcasses; they are unclean for you'.
Deuteronomy 14:8 (New International Version)
14:8) 'The pig is also unclean; although it has a split hoof, it does not chew the cud. You are not to eat their meat or touch their carcasses'.
Some say somehow that with the coming of the NT, all that were forbidden, are now allowed for Christians, but I'm confused with this verse,
Jesus said,
Matthew 5:17 (New International Version)
5:17) 'Do not think that I have come to abolish the Law or the Prophets; I have not come to abolish them but to fulfil them'.
So, my question to you Mr. E. Viking, between Muslims and Christians, who had adhered fully to the filth concept in the Bible? And who had not considered the filth in the Bible as filth. Thanks.
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